ATITD Wiki: Erika/Chime Notes

This page is for my large volume of chime notes. I'm not sure if they are useful to anyone else, but here they are! :)

Are there specific sequences or transitions? In the muddled chimes, one can often hear two melodies. How can you choose one to dominate over the other? How can you get a different melody to appear? What effect(s) do the tuning steps have? Is it important to use them in a particular order?

I have the following hypotheses:

Each tuning step has its maximal effect on the first application. Further applications of the same tuning step do not change the tune. <b>After additional experimentation, I have found a counterexample which disproves this hypothesis. In one instance, plunging a chime into cold water gave a Pure chime on the first application, and an impure one on the second. However, the name of the chime stayed the same.
Some transitions are more likely than others.
Certain tuning steps control a specific transition.
Application of a specific sequence of tuning steps may drive the chime toward a particular tune.
There are "shades" of a named chime, therefore a Pure as Crystal or a Pure as Rain chime of a particular name might not be the same as another one.
A small subset of the tuning steps affect a particular chime in any given "shade", and these vary between "shades"

I am particularly interested in the transition from an arbitrary starting chime to any other. Also, I would like to develop an ear for the specific tunes, so that I can hear them in the muddled chimes. Hints, suggestions, ideas, comments, are welcome.

Here are some chimes I have found and their melodies. Please leave me a note if I have made a mistake, as I do not have good pitch. (I am using a piano to compare these.) Thanks to AtuAmani for posting some data in his user page. In order to be consistent with Atu, I am using the same name for keys as he does (ie G# and not A flat)

Diving Crane c#4--b#5--c#5--b#5-- Key of C#
Diving Hawk c#3-- --g#3-- --
Diving Owl c#4-- -g4- g#4
Diving Warbler c#6-D#6-c#6--g#5--
Gliding Gull b#-c#-b#-a#-g#-f#-e#-d#-c#-

Here are some transitions that I have seen. House of Antirrhodus bench (4086,6448)

Diving Crane -> Diving Warbler
Diving Crane -> Diving Parrot
Diving Hawk -> Diving Owl (tumble(newsound)+shine, )
Diving Owl -> Hovering Buzzard (shock(newsound)+expose,)
Diving Parrot -> Diving Crane
Diving Parrot -> Diving Hawk
Diving Warbler -> Diving Crane
Floating Albatross -> Floating Pheasant (clean+shock(newsound)+polish)
Floating Buzzard -> Floating Warbler (Mill/Expose cycle then Polish)
Floating Condor -> Floating Buzzard (Fracture+Mill (from Puffin),
Floating Condor -> Floating Puffin (Mill+cold Water)
Floating Gull -> Floating Owl (Polish, Plunge CW)
Floating Osprey -> Floating Raven (Plunge cold+shock)
Floating Osprey -> Floating Sparrow
Floating Owl -> Floating Gull (Dope)
Floating Parrot -> Gliding Gull (Dope with Cactus Sap, Stress with Shearing Force. Bathe in Quicksilver made Pure. Next time Dope, Stress (changed name), Bathe (pure))
Floating Pheasant -> Floating Gull (shock(newsound)+polish+shock(changename) )
Floating Puffin -> Floating Condor (Mill+Fracture,)
Floating Raven -> Floating Albatross (
Floating Sparrow -> Floating Osprey
Floating Sparrow -> Floating Finch
Gliding Crane -> Gliding Owl (Shine, )
Gliding Crane -> Floating Condor (Polish )
Gliding Gull -> Floating Parrot (Plunge into Cold Water, Polish using Rabbit Pelts, Clean with Worm Spirits, Tumble in White Sand)
Gliding Gull -> Gliding Pheasant (Tumble with White Sand)
Gliding Gull -> Gliding Owl (Leopards'Paw+Hot Water)
Gliding Lark -> Gliding Pheasant (Plunge into Cold Water made Pure on first application, impure on next one. on a subsequent try, Pure GL went to Pure GP. Plunge into CW again.)
Gliding Pheasant -> Gliding Gull (Aluminum Powder gave the tune as an undercurrent, Heavy Block made the transition complete.)
Gliding Pheasant -> Gliding Lark (Bathe in Quicksilver made it Pure on first application. Stress with Shearing Force also made this transition.)(This time Al Powder, Heavy Block cycling went to gliding lark!)
Gliding Owl -> Gliding Crane (Shock,)
Soaring Phesant -> Diving Hawk (pcw,

Here are some chimes that appeared on the bench to start out:

Floating Osprey (3)
Floating Parrot
Soaring Pheasant

Odd occurances: Multiple applications of Plunge into Cold Water made a Pure chime on first go, impure on second. I did not detect auditory changes on third and subsequent Plunges. Plunge into Cold Water and Bathe in Quicksilver are giving pure chime (Gliding Pheasant) on interleaved applications. Found a cycle of three tuning steps that gave different sounds. Went through that cycle several times. The dominant chime became pure.

It seems that chimes are relatively deterministic. I'll try to add some pathways I've found here. Headings are the starting chimes.

Soaring Pheasant

Trial 1

Plunge CW
-> DIVING HAWK (impure)
Mill, Shock, Coat, Polish (lost some SP sound), Coat, Polish, Bathe, Clean
-> DIVING HAWK (pure)
Shine (2nd is not SP),
-> DIVING HAWK (impure)
Clean, Polish
-> DIVING OWL (impure)
Fracture (new sound), Polish
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Fracture
-> DIVING OWL (impure)
Polish
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Fracture
-> DIVING OWL (impure)
Polish
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Coat, Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Stress (new sound?), Bathe, Tumble (new sound), Shine, Tumble, Shine, Tumble, Stress, Tumble, Shine, Fracture, Expose, Mill, Shock
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Tumble, Shock
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Bathe, Shine, Bathe, Shine, Tumble, Shine, Mill, Shock (newsound), Polish, Coat, Polish, Bathe, Clean
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Mill,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Shock (newsound), Polish, Coat, Polish, Coat, Polish, Bathe, Clean
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Shock
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Polish, Coat, Polish, Coat, Polish, Bathe, Clean(newsound), Polish, Bathe, Clean, Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Stress(newsound), Bathe, Tumble (newsound), Shine, Clean, Fracture, Mill, Expose, Shock (newsound), Polish(revertsound), Coat, Dope (newsound), Tuble (revertsound), Dope, Shock (newsound), Dope, Tumble, Shock, Dope
-> DIVING OWL (impure)
Tumble
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Shock
-> DIVING OWL (impure)
Dope, Shock (newsound), Dope, Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Shock, Dope, Shock, Tumble
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Shock,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Dope, Tumble, Shock, Dope,
-> DIVING OWL (impure)
Plunge HW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Dope, Tumble, Shock, Dope,
-> DIVING OWL (impure)
Stress(+DV HWK), Plunge CW,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Stress
-> DIVING OWL (pure)
Plunge CW
-> DIVING OWL (impure)
Plunge HW, Stress (+DV HWK), Plunge CW (x10) (newsound, 12/8 rhythmn), Plunge HW, Stress, Bathe, Tumble (+DV HWK), Shine, Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Clean, Stress (newsound), Bathe, Tumble (newsound), Shine, Plunge CW (newsound), Plunge HW, Clean, Stress (newsound) Plunge CW (newsound), Plunge HW, Clean, Stress (newsound), Plunge HW (newsound), Stress
-> DIVING OWL (pure)
Dope, Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Dope, Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Stress (newsound), Tumble, Plunge CW, Dope (newsound), Stress, Tumble, Plunge CW (newsound), Dope, Stress, Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Dope
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Dope, Plunge CW, Dope, Plunge CW, {Dope, Plunge CW}x5, Stress
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Dope, Plunge CW, {Dope, Plunge CW}x5, {Fracture, Dope, Plunge CW}x5, {Fracture, Plunge CW, Dope}x5, Plunge HW, Bathe, Shine, Clean, Expose, Coat, Mill, Stress
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type A)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Plunge HW, Bathe, Shine, Clean, Tumble, Fracture,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)(Type A)
Plunge CW,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Plunge HW, Bathe, Shinge, Clean, Tumble, Dope, Mill, Expose, Shock
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)(Type B)
Plunge CW (MERDE!!), Dope (whewh)
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)(Type A?) (??!!)
Plunge CW, Dope,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type C?)
Dope, Plunge CW,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type B)
Dope
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type C?)
Plunge HW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type B)
Dope,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type C?)
Stress, Bathe,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Bathe, Shine, Clean, Tumble, Dope
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type C?)
Stress, Bathe
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Bathe, Shine, Clean, Tumble, Stress,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type C?)
Bathe
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure (Type D -- same harmony, louder volume+more notes (noted possible hearing loss (at 5000 Hz?) in my left ear... let's hope that is temporary -- ALWAYS REMEMBER EAR PROTECTION WHEN EXPOSED TO SOUNDS >90dB!!) )
Plunge CW, Bathe, Plunge HW, Stress
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type E -- similar harmony, new ending chime)
Stress, Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Type B/D/C -- similar harmony, with the beginning chime)
Bathe, Dope
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (similar harmony, contains middle chime)
Bathe
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Wrote down rhythmn as A* on notepad)
Bathe, Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Stress
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (B* notepad)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Wrote down rhythmn as A* on notepad (?))
Bathe, Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Bathe, Tumble, Shine, Clean, Fracture
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (B* notepad)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Wrote down rhythmn as A* on notepad )
Bathe, Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Bathe, Tumble, Shine, Clean, Mill
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Rhythmn C*)
Plunge CW,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Wrote down rhythmn as A* on notepad )
Bathe, Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Bathe, Tumble, Shine, Clean, Fracture
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Rhythmn C*)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Wrote down rhythmn as A* on notepad )
Bathe, Plunge HW, Tumble, Shine, Plunge CW, Clean, Mill
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Rhythmn C*)
Plunge CW,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Stress
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Rhythmn C*)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (Wrote down rhythmn as A* on notepad)
Plunge CW, Tumble, Plunge HW, Bathe, Shine, Clean, Expose, Shock
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure (Rhythm D*)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Stress,
-> DIVING OWL (impure) (Rhythmn A)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (B* notepad)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Stress
-> DIVING OWL (pure)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW
-> DIVING OWL (impure) (Rhythm B, undercurrent Diving Hawk)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Stress
-> DIVING HAWK (impure) (Rhythmn A)
Polish(?)
-> DIVING HAWK (impure) (Rhythmn B)
Dope, Polish,
-> DIVING OWL (impure) (Rhythmn A)
Plunge HW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (B*)
Polish, Bathe, Plunge HW, Clean
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Plunge CW,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (A*)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Bathe, Tumble, Shine, Clean, Expose, Dope,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (C*)
Plunge CW,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (A*)
Plunge CW, Shine, Clean, Expose, Polish, Fracture
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (C*)

Clean, Fracture, Mill, Shock
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (E*)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Stress
-> DIVING OWL (impure) (C)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Bathe, Shock, Shock, Tumble
-> DIVING OWL (pure)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (B*)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (E*)
Shock, Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Shock, Coat, Shock, Shine
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (A*)
Plunge HW, Bathe, Polish, Coat, Expose, Clean, Shine, Tumble, Plunge CW, Fracture
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (B*)
Plunge HW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (E*)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Shock, Coat, Dope
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure)(B*)
Plunge HW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (E*)
Bathe, Tumble
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (A*)
Plunge HW, Plunge CW, Fracture
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (B*)
Shock
-> DIVING OWL (impure) (A)
Bathe
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (B*)
Tumble
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (C*)
Stress, Clean, Fracture, Mill, Dope, Coat,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (A*)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Coat, Expose, Fracture
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (B*)
Bathe,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Dope
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (C*)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)

Dope, Coat, Polish, Shock

-> HOVERING BUZZARD (impure) (E*)
Coat, Shock, Polish, Expose
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (A*)
Dope
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Dope
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (C*)
Coat
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (A*)
Shock
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (E*)
Polish, Shock, Plunge HW, Plunge CW, Bathe, Clean
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (A*)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Bathem Tumble, Shine, Clean, Expose, Polish, Coat, Shock
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (pure)
Polish, Coat, Dope, Plunge CW,
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (A*)
Shock
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (E*)
Stress
-> DIVING OWL (A)
Stress
-> DIVING OWL (C)
Shine
-> DIVING OWL (pure)
Stress
-> DIVING HAWK (B)
Plunge CW
-> DIVING OWL (A)
Plunge CW
-> HOVERING BUZZARD (E*)
Plunge CW, Plunge HW, Shock, Polish
<< Hekatef comes over to the bench, verifies that the chime moves are the same for him >>

... to be continued ... (Need to describe the sound more precisely, then characterize the transitions out of that sound.)

Floating Osprey

polish
shock
shine
clean
shock
clean
shock
polish
plunge cw
plunge hw
polish
shock (new audible sound)
polish
shock (change name)
dope
shock
polish
shock
dope (got it here once)
clean (got it here also?)

Erika > Chime Notes

Soaring Pheasant

Trial 1

Floating Osprey