As an experiment, Aidena grew carrots in one spot (give or take a few paces, since at high yield times she was growing multiple plants) continuously for more than a full Egypt day, recording the Egypt-time and number of carrots harvested.
For most of the time, the growth pattern formed very distinct peaks spaced roughly 2 hours 20 minutes apart. However, towards the end of the period, the expected peaks failed to appear, with a flat one-carrot-per-seed harvest for five hours of Egypt time. She would have liked to continue the measurements further but was unable due to exhaustion, it then being past 4 AM real-world time.
A fourier analysis of this data might be interesting. Any chance of posting the source data?
Sure! I don't know enough math to know what a fourier analysis is, but I'm interested! Here's the raw data. (Hmm, wiki edits out carriage returns. OK, changed it to comma separated, hope you can parse that.)
Wolfling: I have analyzed the data as sugested using the equivalent of Fourier Analysis. My method was more brute force with putting the data into a spread sheet and the drawing a combination of superimposed sine waves over it. The results are ruff, but it get's the info required. Here is the picture, I will discuss it a bit later on:
The black line shows my approximation while the blue squares show the data gathered by Aidena. The approximation consists of 3 sine waves superimposed on each other. The period for the 3 waves are 2hr 20min, 9hr and 48hr in Egypt Time and the amplitudes are 4, 4 and 9 respectively. The 3 waves add/subtract from each other which gives the high and low peaks. If the result of the three waves gives a value smaller than 1, the value is made 1. Thus you will always get at least 1 carrot per seed.
This means there are 3 waves moving over Egypt at different speeds and probably in different directions. From other results and reports it would seem that the short wave, the one with the 2hr 20min period, moves in a E-W direction. However as our test data are all for one spot, we cannot really say what the direction of the other 2 waves are.
So how do this help us?
First: If you have a slow day and only harvest 1 carrot per planting for a 20 min period, you are in one of the phases where all the 'waves' are negative. Wait 12hrs Egypt time (4hrs real time) and your yields will be much better.
Second: If you hit that 16+ carrot peak, use it and run with it. See if you can follow it by moving a few paces at a time in a NW-SW direction.
Questions that still remains un-answered:
1) Are the 'waves' all the same for different areas of Egypt?
2) Do the waves move in the same direction? To test this, somebody with the patience will have to go and redo this test, but once the 16 onion peak is reached, try and follow it. It will move in a westerly direction but it could be more to the North or South (It can be in an arc of 180 degrees from N through W to S).
Shadus: Removed the raw data and moved to page attachments, made attachments for the original raw data you posted and also the csv revision of it. Both are downloadable/viewable at the bottom of the page.
Additional data from the main fruit and vegetables page:
[Testing done with carrots at approx. 5-7 PM Egypt Time:
3 people around, Male planting and harvesting, 1+1 yield.
2 people around, Female planting and harvesting, 1+1 yield.
2 people around, Female planting, male Harvesting, 1+1 yield.
2 people around, Male planting, female harvesting, 1+1 yield. - Joshua Nighthawk]
1 person around, male planting and harvesting 9+1 yield. 8:00 pm game time. - Rent-A-Pig]
Carrot harvests beginning around 2am egypt time, Red Sea Oasis, Both shores of Nile, Male and female gender characters, occasional company at both locations:
Carrot yields rose (and eventually fell) every 15 game minutes or so. Started at 5+1, increased to 6+1, 7+1, 8+1, 9+1, 10+1, 11+1,12+1, 11+1, 10+1, 9+1, 8+1, 7+1, 8+1, 9+1, 10+1, 11+1, 12+1, 13+1, 14+1, 13+1, 12+1, 11+1, 10+1, 9+1, 8+1, 7+1, 6+1, 5+1, 6+1, 7+1, 8+1, 9+1
This crescendo/decrescendo pattern in carrot yields continued till around 10am game time when, from sheer exhaustion and offline production satisfied we quit.
The pattern was occuring similarly for 2 guildmates approximately 100 coordinates north of my Nile location. No worthwhile carrot yield for a 4th character (1+1) about 50 coordinates west of the Nile. Production in same time period prior game day was 1+1.
I spent 3 hours growing carrots trying to time these bands. All grown in the same spot. All times are RL The yeild started at 12 carrots and over the next 20 minutes steadily reduced to 1 carrot. It stayed at 1 carrot for the next 30 minutes. It then rose to 4 carrots and dropped quickly back down to 1 carrot. For the next 2 hours the yeild stayed at 1 carrot, then I gave up. Nia
Andius and I stumbled across how the bands work. While growing carrots at 16 per, Andius ran south about 100-150 co-ords to see when band would reach him. He discovered he was getting 5. He followed his growth SE to another spot of 16. It appears the bands are roughly 256 co-ords apart from center to center. They move either in a SE, or a SW direction which appears to alternate. They seem to move roughly 3 co-ords south to each 1 co-ord west or east. I was only able to track 4 bands alternating but they seem to all follow this pattern. I haven't done any research into times the bands appear or how fast they move yet, however 15 minutes stated above for a band to move 256 co-ords seems about right.
N.B. this hypothesis accurately explain's Nia's findings. If Nia was on say band A (lets just say its going sw), then band B 15 minutes north of Nia (moving SE) would probalby miss. Then 15 minutes later (30 minutes total), Nia gets 4 carrots, as Band C (also moving SW) catches her came in the trailing edge of the band.
The bands that move SW or SE together (every other one) seem to keep their centers on the same e/w loc. So you can't just expect to wait 30 minutes to get the next 16 carrot spot, as it will likely be 100 co-ords or so west (or east ) of you. --- Takatok
Question: These bands are moving areas, arent them? So cant there be any connection between them and the clouds I sometimes see floating in the air? -MecFiGerth
Carrots "bonus" field is a moving none related to time, same place u get 1:1 carrots, u can get different time up to 18:1, if u wanna find out when its good time to do carrots, grow when once / hour and look, if its under 5, then wait more. i never do if its under 10, can wait and do someother veggies while waiting carrots field to go bigger. Fin
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On my first try growing carrots I got a yield of 23+1 at 6 am in Sinai. During the next half hour of Egypt-time this yield decreased a little until I got 21+1. I will try if I can repeat this at the same time on a different day. Fadil
