Xeros Prediction: You will see different Ore linked to the same color on different levels.So please make sure you report the Level in combination with the Crystal type.
It only lists number of CLUSTERS, not crystals
Clusters are the number of groups of same type Crystals in the Stone. A connection between Clusters and yield has not yet been established.
| Cluster name | Color | Metal | Level |
| Abhurite | SB+ (unsure, could be navy) | Tin | 1 |
| Acuminite | Aluminum (?) | 2 | |
| Akdalaite | PB- | Aluminum | 3 |
| Ashoverite | NC+ | Zinc | |
| Berndtite | TM- | Tin | 2 |
| Cassiterite | NB+ | Tin | 2 |
| Celestine | Stontium(?) | 2 | |
| Cuprite | SS- | Copper | 1 |
| Corundum | SC+ | Aluminum(?) | 2 |
| Danbaite | TB-O | Zinc | 1 |
| Diaspore | SC- | Aluminum | 1 |
| Digenite | PM- | Copper | 1 |
| Eugenite | SS+ | Silver | ? |
| Gricite | AM- | Lithium(?) | 2 |
| Hematite | Iron? | 2 | |
| Jalpaite | GM+ | Silver | ? |
| Kamecite | TC | Iron | 1 |
| Litharge | SS+ | Lead | 3 |
| Liberite | RS+ | Lithium? | 2 |
| Luberoite | NS- | Platinum | 2 |
| Magnetite | TC- | Iron | 1 |
| Maldonite | TC+ | Gold | 2 |
| Matraite | PB+ | Zinc | 1 |
| Osbornite | SB ? | Titanium | 3 |
| Pearceite | KS+ | Silver | ? |
| Romarchite | RM- | Tin | 1 |
| Rulite | NS ? | Titanium | 3 |
| Sicklerite | GC- | Lithium(?) | 2 |
| Stistaite | PB- | Tin | |
| Sweetite | NC+ (NC-) | Zinc | 1 |
| Tavorite | GB- | ? | 2 |
| Tausonite | RB+ | Strontium | 2 |
| Tenorite | TB-D | Copper | 1 |
| Yixunite | KS- | Platinum | 2 |
| Yuanjiangite | RC+ | Gold | 2 |
Pure smelts:
| Cart contents | Level | Result | Furnace | Submitter | Metal % ** |
| 40 Yixunite, 21 Dirt | 2 | 15 Platinum | CF | Gustav | Pt 54.82% |
| 31 Yixunite, 21 Dirt | 2 | 9 platinum | CF | Gustav | ??? |
| 32 Yixunite, 25 Dirt | 2 | 5 platinum | CF | Gustav | ??? |
| 27 Tausonite, 15 Dirt | 2 | 10 Strontium | CF | Gustav | ??? |
Impure smelts:
| Cart Contents (clusters) | Level | Result | Furnace | Submitter | Metal % ** |
| 7 Cuprite, 3 Tenorite, 18 Dirt, 3 Limestone | 1 | 6 Dirt | SP | Jataka | Cu 27.8% |
| 8 cuprite | 1 | 5 copper | CF | Mystraca | ??? |
| 34 Luberoite, 21 dirt, 1 Yixunite | 2 | 9 Platinum | CF | Gustav | ??? |
| 5 Magnetite, 4 Hematite, 3 Kamacite, 17 Sand, 5 Dirt | 1 | 6 Sand | SP | Jataka | Fe 26.8% |
| 7 Wolframite, 2 Ferberite, 1 Akdalaite, 4 Sand, 4 Dirt | 4 | 4 Tungsten | CF | Seamubis | W 30.31% |
| 38 Cuprite, 3 Tenorite, 2 Digenite | 1 | 36 Copper | CF | Seratos | ??? |
Amalgation smelts: 1:1 ratio of copper/zinc clusters yields excellent (maybe optimal) brass. The data seems to suggest that different colored clusters of the same mineral have identical yields. Any amount of dirt has a severely negative effect however. - enjiro I've noticed having even 1 sand or other impurity wrecks a brass smelt. -skrug
Amalgamation smelts:
| Cart contents | Level | Result | Furnace | Submitter | Metal % ** | Ratio |
| 15 Cuprite, 8 Tenorite, 9 Danbaite, 3 Matraite, 5 Ashoverite | 1 | 8 Brass | AF | Skrug | ??? | 23-17 (1.35) |
| 25 Cuprite, 9 Tenorite, 13 Danbaite, 7 Matraite, 2 Ashoverite | 1 | 10 Brass | AF | Skrug | ??? | 34-22 (1.54) |
| 19 Cuprite, 3 Tenorite, 2 Digenite, 10 Danbaite, 1 Ashoverite | 1 | 0 Brass | AF | Skrug | ??? | 24-11 (2.18) |
| 21 Cuprite, 9 Tenorite, 1 Digenite, 7 Matraite, 9 Danbaite, 1 Wulfingite | 1 | 0 Brass | AF | Skrug | ??? | 31-17 (1.82) |
| 17 Cuprite, 12 Tenorite, 1 Digenite, 3 Matraite, 12 Danbaite | 1 | 0 Brass | AF | Skrug | ??? | 30-15 (2) |
| Copper : Zinc clusters | Brass Yield | Investigator | |
| 7:7 | 12 | Chichis | |
| 9:9 | 15 | Lindie | |
| 24:11 | 0 | Skrug | |
| 12:12 | 0 | Kai | |
| 12:12 | 20 | Gumby | |
| 13:12 | 9 | Kai | |
| 14:12 | 6 | Kai | |
| 14:13 | 23 | Syrex | 18 stones |
| 15:12 | 9 | Kai | |
| 15:12 | 21 | Kai | |
| 16:12 | 6 | Kai | |
| 15:15 | 26 | Gumby | |
| 18:12 | 12 | Kai | |
| 19:12 | 12 | Kai | |
| 30:15 | 0 | Skrug | |
| 19:19 | 0 | Chichis | |
| 23:17 | 8 | Skrug | |
| 31:17 | 0 | Skrug | |
| 18:18 | 0 | Gumby | |
| 19:18 | 31 | Gumby | |
| 19:19 | 0 | Chichis | |
| 34:22 | 10 | Skrug | |
| 24:24 | 41 | Gumby | |
| 25:25 | 45 | Kairalaa | |
| 27:27 | 46 | Gumby |
Seems obvious there's more to brass yields than cluster count - Kai
| Copper : Tin clusters | Bronze Yield | Investigator |
| 24:10 | 26 | Remmao |
** According to Real Life (webmineral.com). Here's my calculation for Metal %, keep in mind this is just a hypothesis:[(Concentration% of Mineral N)x(Cluster Count of Mineral N)]/(Total cluster count) I assume dirt and LS are 100% concentration I'll walk through the 7 cuprite, 3 Tenorite results I posted above:
Cuprite Concentration = 88.82% and Tenorite Concentration = 79.89%. The rest is Oxygen. We have 7 cuprites and 3 Tenorites, as well as 18 dirt and 3 Limestone. Total number of clusters is 31. So the math is:
(88.82x7)+(79.89x3)=621.74+239.67=861.41 Now divide by 31 = 27.787419 or so rounded to 27.79
I'm not saying this means anything, I'm just providing as much info as I can so we can figure stuff out. I think the fact that they used names of real minerals points to the fact that the real concentrations mean something. See my post below. Thanks Gustav for suggesting this clarification. -Jataka
I'm going to tidy this up a bit and add in the Oxygen, Dirt, and Limestone percentages soon for clarity, but right now I'm having too much fun mining :). -Jataka
Hypothesis: When picking the amount of dirt you get is equal to the number of dirt clusters. -Toba
I'd say this is incorrect... 2 dirt clusters (5 crystals, 6 crystals) gave 3 dirt for me. - Astymma
Recent test... danbaite(5-4), dirt(8-1),matraite(2-1) with (crystal count-cluster count) in SP = 2 zinc.
Seems to indicate cluster count determines primary mineral type in a smelt. -Astymma
No tests to back this up yet, but I'm assuming that the RL concentration of these minerals is considered and that would be why we had conflicting results before. So if you have 5 clusters of a 60% Zinc 40% copper mineral and you smelt that with 2 clusters of a 100% copper mineral, you'll get copper (300% zinc + 400% copper). This may be obvious, but I just thought I'd point it out since you could also look at the same 7 minerals and say: 5 minerals are mostly zinc 2 are copper so smelting them together would be 5 zinc + 2 copper = zinc. Either hypothesis could prove true but I think it's probably the more complicated of the two. This should be easy to test, so we shouldn't have to speculate long. (assuming I'm not just imagining the speculations in the first place :) ) -Jataka
| Name | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |
| Aluminum | Akdalaite | Corundum | Diaspore | Hibonite | Painite |
| Antimony | Paradocrasite | Valentinite | Senarmontite | Bystromite | Berthierite |
| Copper | Cuprite | Tenorite | Digenite | Covellite | Cupalite |
| Gold | Maldonite | Yuanjiangite | Auricupride | Weishanite | Calaverite |
| Iron | Magnetite | Kamecite | Hematite | Bernalite | Fayalite |
| Lead | Litharge | Blixite | Asisite | Laurelite | Shannonite |
| Lithium | Gricite | Liberite | Sicklerite | Tavorite | Tiptopite |
| Magnesium | Periclase | Fluborite | Kotoite | Suanite | Brucite |
| Platinum | Yixunite | Luberoite | Hongshiite | Braggite | Genkinite |
| Silver | Pearceite | Jalpaite | Eugenite | Nauamannite | Proustite |
| Strontium | Tausonite | Celestine | Acuminite | Ohmilite | Jarlite |
| Tin | Romarchite | Abhurite | Berndtite | Cassiterite | Stistaite |
| Titanium | Osbornite | Rulite | Brookite | Anatase | Kleberite |
| Tungsten | Wolframite | Ferberite | Sanmartinite | Rankachite | Jixianite |
| Zinc | Danbaite | Matraite | Ashoverite | Sweetite | Wulfingite |
Note: Thanks to Dio for the info in the chart, i just formated. Reformatted to be in alphabetical order by metal --Wuqensta
A few thoughts, This provides 5 types of each metal. There are 15 metal types. 15x5=75. 9(colors)x4(patterns)x2(shapes)=72. Which is shy of the required 75... which is why a few crystal types also take into account depth. Maybe? :) I don't beleive we'll see repeats used, but i do think at times we're going to have to distinguish depth or whatever it is that makes those crystals different.
Well, I've gotten all 5 types of platinum to come out of my level 2 mine. I've only smelted 2 of them so far (and only 1 of those purely, as I miss filed once). Guessing each type might have different metal value, and perhaps the value varies based on the level? or the mine? Won't be able to tell anything until we smelt a lot. --Gustav
In testing ore yields and assuming that clusters are 'pure' if they're just ferrous oxides, I'm testing the yield of a smelting pot with 20 clusters. I'll get back to here with the data. Update - I've come up with 6 ore from 18 clusters. Maybe not exact, but a good indication that smelting pots are very much out of vogue. --Sedelyan
For those who, like me, wanted the above chart in alphabetical order by the scientific names of these minerals, here's a chart just for you. -- Monthar
| Name | Ore Type | Name | Ore Type | Name | Ore Type |
| Abhurite | Tin | Eugenite | Silver | Painite | Aluminum |
| Acuminite | Strontium | Fayalite | Iron | Paradocrasite | Antimony |
| Akdalaite | Aluminum | Ferberite | Tungsten | Pearceite | Silver |
| Anatase | Titanium | Fluborite | Magnesium | Periclase | Magnesium |
| Ashoverite | Zinc | Genkinite | Platinum | Proustite | Silver |
| Asisite | Lead | Gricite | Lithium | Rankachite | Tungsten |
| Auricupride | Gold | Hematite | Iron | Romarchite | Tin |
| Bernalite | Iron | Hibonite | Aluminum | Rulite | Titanium |
| Berndtite | Tin | Hongshiite | Platinum | Sanmartinite | Tungsten |
| Berthierite | Antimony | Jalpaite | Silver | Senarmontite | Antimony |
| Blixite | Lead | Jarlite | Strontium | Shannonite | Lead |
| Braggite | Platinum | Jixianite | Tungsten | Sicklerite | Lithium |
| Brookite | Titanium | Kamecite | Iron | Stistaite | Tin |
| Brucite | Magnesium | Kleberite | Titanium | Suanite | Magnesium |
| Bystromite | Antimony | Kotoite | Magnesium | Sweetite | Zinc |
| Calaverite | Gold | Laurelite | Lead | Tausonite | Strontium |
| Cassiterite | Tin | Liberite | Lithium | Tavorite | Lithium |
| Celestine | Strontium | Litharge | Lead | Tenorite | Copper |
| Corundum | Aluminum | Luberoite | Platinum | Tiptopite | Lithium |
| Covellite | Copper | Magnetite | Iron | Valentinite | Antimony |
| Cupalite | Copper | Maldonite | Gold | Weishanite | Gold |
| Cuprite | Copper | Matraite | Zinc | Wolframite | Tungsten |
| Danbaite | Zinc | Nauamannite | Silver | Wulfingite | Zinc |
| Diaspore | Aluminum | Ohmilite | Strontium | Yixunite | Platinum |
| Digenite | Copper | Osbornite | Titanium | Yuanjiangite | Gold |