MarcusRider: Nothing really. Just questions that should of been answered in game.
MarcusRider: All it is is questions
MarcusRider: and more questions
Boone: oh there's plenty to post about, even the most common questions can lead to a good discussion, and might even give birth to some good ideas Boone: the trade-forum for one is a great place to make new friends, i use that regularly
MarcusRider: I dont use trade forums, because the group of people i hang out with are really self supporting.
MarcusRider: I guess each side has its own arguement.
MarcusRider: Thats why the government is hated because every one can contradict each other till hell freezes over.
MarcusRider: Also I want to have the pharaoh do something about Gentry.
MarcusRider: He is stuck up and powerhungry.
Boone: Gentry? i like gentry, why?
MarcusRider: He ended up useing real life matters in his defense and cussed me out.
MarcusRider: I did not use one ounce of foul langue except for shit (which i put in quotes after it im sorry for saying shit) MarcusRider: He was saying that he was a full time submariner in the navy for the defense.
MarcusRider: Then started to call me rude names.
MarcusRider: Also on several occasions he said he was gonna stop the convo and never did
Boone: well, the time i've spent with gentry i've seen nothing about him being powerhungry atleast, stuck up.. well, guess that's possible heh MarcusRider: He is im waiting for teppy to call me back.
Boone: heh, sounds like a dead cause to me.. not like he's going to get rid of one of the devs ;).
MarcusRider: He will with this proof.
Boone: what exactly did you do / he do?
MarcusRider: 1 sec phone.
MarcusRider: well, i was calling because of a bug and then he went to check it out and said there was "no problem with the code" MarcusRider: I said just because there isnt a problem with the code dosent mean there isnt anythign wrong.
MarcusRider: Then he said for me to reinact the bug.
MarcusRider: This was the Iniation to Worship I had used my only beetle and canvas.
MarcusRider: He was expecting me to pull both out of my ass right there.
MarcusRider: Personally ive only seen 2 beetles, one in t2 and one in t3
MarcusRider: I always traded for mine.
Boone: well, everything is easily aquirable with trade
Boone: and asking you to reinact the bug would be the right thing to do
MarcusRider: But HOW?
Boone: well, doing whatever it was the exact same way
MarcusRider: I kept asking him to resupply me with the stuff SO i could reinact it for him.
MarcusRider: How can i do it the exact same way with out haveing the supplys?
Boone: get the supplies, THEN reinact it? ;.
MarcusRider: Why should i bother to reinact it then?
MarcusRider: Then if it messes up again ill have to get them AGAIN.
Boone: because if you can prove the bug, you'll get the items reimbursed..
MarcusRider: Thus makeing me spend more time than needed, but the convo never got that far.
MarcusRider: Because it turned in to a fight hella bad.
MarcusRider: My partner that i did it with had to take care of her kids so i couldnt do it then.
Boone: you could always do it another time/day
MarcusRider: I even told him that.
MarcusRider: I was asking him how then he just started to give me BS
MarcusRider: not the time of day thing
MarcusRider: Im asking him how could i reinact it now(which he was implying)
MarcusRider: then he started to give me BS
Boone: well, with all due respect, it sounds a bit weird that he for no reason started to give you bullshit
MarcusRider: I contradicted what he was saying alot because he was trying to put me on the short end of the rope.
MarcusRider: I replyed deining just about everything he was saying.
MarcusRider: He was getting mad because i was right >.>
Boone: well, you can't really prove that you were right if you didnt successfully reproduce the bug..
MarcusRider: but the fact of the matter is, he dose not have enough restraint to controll him self in to ending a conversation when he says he will and to stop him self from cussing the person out. MarcusRider: He never gave me the chance.
Boone: you didnt need for him to give you the chance, you could just wait until you had gotten the supplies again
MarcusRider: At the end when we were ironing things out i asked him ok now that we got (what else we were walking about before stright) let me reproduce it now (i had asked a friend for supplys), he said he removed his offer to let me reproduce it...
MarcusRider: He is like I refuse to talk to some one like you with your attitude. I said why? your the one cussing at me, useing Real Life as a defense. I never said a cuss word besides shit which i said sorry for. MarcusRider: after he said he was gonna close the convo 2 times before that
Boone: so why didn't you get another dev and reproduce the bug for them?
MarcusRider: im not gonna waste more of my time with the BS customer service.
MarcusRider: Also i hear people dont like Nox that much either
MarcusRider: I would have to re call a gm and WAIT
MarcusRider: or just wait for a DEV that might not be on
Boone: well, uh, then why are you waiting for a call from teppy, if the customer support is bullshit?
MarcusRider: this takeing from 10PM my time to about almost 1 AM to finish the GM call to end of chat with Gentry
MarcusRider: Im gonna do something about it ive delt with BS customer support before, somethign is gonna happen to gentry even if its a temp removal of powers. MarcusRider: He is lucky he isnt even getting paid a quarter an day because then i was gonna put down the Legal system on him. MarcusRider: Aparently to him he dosent get paid
MarcusRider: but dose it?
MarcusRider: he*
MarcusRider: Also he was trying to get me on the fact that i dident know exactly what a dev was.
MarcusRider: in the end he said a dev was just customer service that can edit code basically
MarcusRider: I thought a dev was some one who made the game.
MarcusRider: So, do people like gentry and nox get paid?
Boone: not a clue, but as a dev i'd think that they should be paid
MarcusRider: Also another thing is Gentry cannot hold up his end for crap in a conversation.
MarcusRider: I would reply with my respone next to instantly
MarcusRider: it was takeing him 5-10 min some times.
MarcusRider: Also he was insulting my education.
Boone: can't blame a person for thinking an answer out instead of just saying the first thing that comes to mind
MarcusRider: He was saying that my english teacher should of failed me, because i dident spell some words correctly.
MarcusRider: I dident go to school to learn how to spell. If i did i would be writeing books not building computers.
MarcusRider: He cussed at me, insulted the ability of my education in the field of the english language.
MarcusRider: He basically acted like a complete stuck up snob.
MarcusRider: Then for some reason he thought i was gonna sue him... dont know where that came from
Boone: well, i can't say that you're acting that good here either heh.. you seem to be out on a personal rampage against
him, on something as trivial as a game-bugMarcusRider: No im not actually.
MarcusRider: Ive just told like 5 peopel
MarcusRider: and this happend friday night
MarcusRider: No its not about the game bug
MarcusRider: boone he cussed at me and said i was stupid by insulting my education
MarcusRider: called me names
MarcusRider: insulted me degraded me.
MarcusRider: You are basically saying thats OK if he dsoent get a punishment
MarcusRider: Because he is a voluenteer he gets away with stuff like that.
MarcusRider: Is that what you are saying?
MarcusRider: I honistly could care less about the bug.
MarcusRider: I just re did it. Im pissed at him for cussing at me, and degradeing me, insulting my education.
Boone: but you're doing it to him right now, insulting and degrading him.. what's the difference?
Boone: calling him a snob, and saying he needed to think 5 minutes before answering
MarcusRider: So, hwo else will you know how how the conversation went?
MarcusRider: Snob isnt worse than actuall cuss words.
Boone: to me, this sounds like a trivial matter brought up by something that could have been resolved differently from both sides, and bringing teppy into the issue is just wasting precious time that he could spend doing something other MarcusRider: If you are so intent on me doing so i will call my self a snob and any thign else that would please you.
Boone: well, if you want me to know how the conversation went, i should ask gentry about it then make my own decisions, right? MarcusRider: Go ahead ask him.
MarcusRider: Ask him if he dident use his job in the navy as defense
MarcusRider: ask him if he called me a name or not
MarcusRider: I got the name calling in text documents that i WILL send to teppy.
MarcusRider: ask him see what he says.
Boone: actually.. i already did
Boone: i'll send that in private..
Boone: now, he says the matter is resolved, and i'll take his word for that..
InambaGuum: i'm not taking marcus' side, but while would you automatically trust gentry's word and distrust marcus'?
MarcusRider: Tell me this, even if I did make them (which I did because i was fed up about the wait). He should of NEVER cussed at me InambaGuum: marcus could be exaggerating, but gentry isn't automatically innocent because he's a dev
MarcusRider: Boone did he say he cussed at me?
Boone: nor am i saying that he is
MarcusRider: Because i got proof if he says no to you he is major busted
Boone: marcus, check the tab i pasted for you..
Boone: he admitted to not being nice, but that was because of soemthing you started
MarcusRider: being not nice and cussing is WAY different
MarcusRider: I got it the picture that he wasent gonna pass me, i just asked at the start.
MarcusRider: He viewed it as an unreasonable demand.
MarcusRider: I personally never knew what they could do. As in thinking the dev was actually some one who made the game.
Boone: and inambaguum, the reason i'll take gentrys word for it is because i've seen him work for several years, and i've never seen or heard of him being a snob, nor powerhungry, and especially not for a petty reason as this.. if he cursed, i'm sure he had a reason for it
MarcusRider: Which is what a DEVELOPER is.
MarcusRider: Boone you are reinforceing the fact that just because he is a dev he can cuss
Boone: no, he can curse because he's human, i couldnt care less if he was a peasant, god, or the devil
MarcusRider: I held back and NEVER cussed at him. Haveing to reword my sentences several times to remove cuss words.
Boone: cursing isn't the end of the world
MarcusRider: Fine then what is your fucking problem. Get it through your fucking small ass brain.
InambaGuum: i agree with you there boone
MarcusRider: He was acting like an unstreasonable asshole.
Boone: see, now you're getting personal with me, and that makes me want to spread this log and let people make up their own minds..
<goes to make dinner>
MarcusRider: I asked two times in total, but then i got the picture it wouldnt be passed.
MarcusRider: Boone all im asking you is to do THIS
MarcusRider: Ask him if he cussed at me.
MarcusRider: Ask him if he used his job in the navy as defense.
MarcusRider: Ask him if he insulted my education.
MarcusRider voted for himself as Demi-Pharaoh.
MarcusRider: :D
Boone: back
Boone: so marcus, i'd really like to read the log.. would put it all into perspective
MarcusRider: Its not a full log as in seeing that I saw no need to copy it earlier becuase of no bad language
MarcusRider: ill copy and paste what i got
2 days 13 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round.
Lucas: hey guys
Lucas: what u to talkin about?
Boone: ah nothing special, having a neat discussion about cursing and devs
Lucas: lol
Lucas: ok
Boone: nothing like a good heated discussion to get the dp-round going ;).
MarcusRider: lol
MarcusRider: You stop reading it :P
MarcusRider: So what you get out of it from that?
Boone: kinda gave up on reading it, it was too cluttered
MarcusRider: hrmm ill fix it few min
Boone: no need, think i've discussed enough about the matter
MarcusRider: No ill make it a screenshot
MarcusRider: so you can just look at it
Boone: thanks, but no need ;).
MarcusRider: I just waht you to ask him what i said before you got back
MarcusRider: its a list of 3 things to ask him
MarcusRider: I want him to say yes or no if he did those things
MarcusRider: to you
Boone: yes, no and yes
Boone: (not that i see how the navy has anything to do with it)
MarcusRider: No he used his job as in real life job as defense.
MarcusRider: You dont use your personal life as a defense in a call like that
MarcusRider: Its jsut COMMEN SENSE.
Boone: but the worst part is the cursing, namecalling and making you feel generally down, right?
MarcusRider: Yes, i dont enjoy it when people call me names so i dont.
MarcusRider: When i cussed earlyer in this convo you were inviteing it.
Boone: right
Boone: i'll just leave it at that, i've pretty much made up my mind about the matter