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Does anyone know what happened to Clooj's and Sketchwick's Fine Fishing Poles? They seemed to have quit the game. -- ShanVizen

Fishing

The fishing skill can be learned at a School of the Human Body for 25 twine and 1 board.

They will give you a Basic Fishing Pole. You should be careful not to lose this; there is no way to get another. You must have a fishing pole with you to fish. Stand close enough to water to see the fish icon, and click it, and you will fish.


Fish icon-

Fishing with a basic fishing pole only works at night, after about 6 pm and before about 8 am. If you get a message about the water being dead, move away, or try at a different time. If the message mentions ripples in the water, keep trying there or nearby, as you may catch fish. Everyone can catch the same types of fish at any particular location. However, the catch rate depends on location and time of night, and varies between people. The size of fish caught is dependent on your speed attribute and can be affected by cooking - see fishing recipes.

Types of Fish

Instructions for finding specific fish can be found on bottom of this page.

Common:

Uncommon:

Rare:

Ultra-rare (can only be fished with Huntsman's Fishing Pole):

Fishing Poles

There are currently two types of unique fishing poles, given by Pharoah on special events: Notice that fishing during the day has reduced yields and ignores speed bonuses.

Questions

Grilled Fish

Grilling the fish

You can cook fish in Bonfires, and will get grilled fish. You can eat this (one at a time) from the special menu; you will then get +2 endurance for the next three teppyminutes. Grilled fish are portable! It does not matter what kind of fish you use.

Fish has been shown to cook in a bonfire at temperature of 10-20.

Simply get the fire up to heat ten or higher - stoking is the recommended method, since it uses the least wood.
Note: by now, you should have added the fish.
Then, let the heat rise and fall by only adding wood every other tick (~10s).
For each fish you added, you will need to repeat the line above once.
If you want to cook n fish, you will need (n - 1)/2 wood to heat the fish with 10 wood overhead to get to heat 10.
(If you use a less efficient method of starting the bonfire, you will have higher overhead)

Fire and forget recipe: build 191 wood bonfire, add 21 of each species you have and fire.

See also Bonfires

- Duinn

It has been pointed out that fishing temperatures overlap with several other items - visit the bonfire page to see which things can be cooked simultaneously

Benefits

You recieve 2 Endurance from eatting Grilled Fish, which lasts approximately 2.5 minutes.

[Endurance information moved to Stats page]

Locations

The types of fish seem to be distributed in diagonal "bands" across the landscape. Bands seem to run NW-SE, so traveling in the NE or SW direction will cause the type of fish to change. Bands also move slightly over time, so just because you're standing still doesn't mean the type of fish won't change.

Starting from the SW end, you'll find fish in roughly the following order:

Carp > Carp/Oxy > Carp/Perch/Oxy > Perch/Oxy > Perch > Perch/Abdju > Perch/Abdju/Catfish > Abdju/Catfish > Catfish > Catfish/Tilapia > Tilapia/Chromis > Tilapia/Chromis/Phagrus > Chromis/Phagrus

From Carp to Chromis/Phagrus is around 210 coords (when traveling directly North or directly East). Then there is dead water for 656 coords before starting over at Carp.

You can determine if you are at a fishing spot by adding your X and Y coordinates, subtract 80, and determine the remainder after dividing by 866. If the remainder is between 0 and 210, you are at a valid fishing spot (assuming there is also water there). Carp is towards the 0 end, Phagrus is near the 210 end. Keep in mind that the bands also move (10-20 coords maybe??) so 0 and 210 are just guidelines.

(For those of you too lazy to do this with a calculator, I have created a very simple program to do it. You can download the source code at http://www.carbondog.net/atitd/fishcalc-src.tar.bz2 [MD5: 2f58a3324e9593b86b883ccfa9ef39fc] and the Linux binary at http://www.carbondog.net/atitd/fishcalc-bin.tar.bz2 [MD5: 104fb347e58a97751e1e87ab96463f11]. Windows binaries coming soon; Mac ones as soon as I can find a developer who uses Mac. --Meudar)

(For the even lazier/don't want to download stuff/have a mac etc, I made a JavaScript to do it and threw it up on a geocities page, you can see it at http://www.geocities.com/xodarap00/Calc.html. If anyone knows how to put up JS on the wiki feel free to do so. --Xodar)

(I wanted a more complete tool, so I created Fishing Assistant. It will show all fish types available at the location you enter. --TheMazeEcho)


Please help fill in the following chart to make finding a local fishing band easier and perhaps help to clarify how fishing works on a more global scale.

Location Game Time Type
-28, -3300 2:30 AM Perch/Abdju (at the pond with too many vineyards.)
-71, 275 12am Carp
-238, -3188 4:50 AM Carp
-443, -3818 4:41 AM - 5:22 Carp/Oxyrynchus
-573, 685 3.00am onwards Perch/Oxrynchus
-999, 2109 5.00am onwards Chromis/Tilapia
-1000, 3764 Abdju/Perch
-1011, 4782 Phagrus , Malapterurus (with Huntsman pole)
-1051, 2180 12:55 PM Chromis/Tilapia (player JacquouLe, male game character
-1222, 5636 5.00am to 10:00 am Carp
-1264, 5676 10:50 PM to 6:30 am (not exact) Carp/Oxy/Perch
-1366, 4866 4am Carp
-1615, 5339 12.00am to 1.00 am Tilapia/Chromis
-1682, 5262 1am Carp/Oxy/Perch
-1700, 4590 1:00 am Phargus
-1700, 4578 9am Catfish/Tilapia
-1787, 8140 8:00 AM Tilapia/Chromis/Phagrus
-1800, 4599 9am Abdju
-1935, 2942 10:05 PM Perch
-1960,5644 9:00 am to 10:00 am Catfish/Tilapia
-1979, 4655 10.55am Carp
-1980,5659 9:00 am Catfish
-2000,5673 9:00 am Catfish
-2020,5683 9:00 am Abdju/Catfish
-2040,5696 9:00 am Abdju/Catfish
-2060,5708 9:00 am Abdju/Catfish
-2084,5723 9:00 am Perch/Abdju
-2097,5731 9:00 am Perch/Abdju
-2100,5741 9:00 am Perch/Abdju
-2108,5750 8:00 am Perch/Abdju
-2121,5778 8:00 am Abdju/Catfish
-2122,5764 8:00 am Abdju/Catfish
-2131,5785 8:00 am Abdju/Catfish
-2145,5781 8:00 am Perch/Abdju
-2216,5819 8:00 am Perch
-2340,7805 11pm Chromis
-2364,5192 12am Catfish/Tilapia
-2391,4180 02.00 AM Carp
-2394,4200 01.00-05:00 Carp
-2391,4220 01:00-05:00 Carp/Perch/Oxrynchus
-2404,4260 01:00-05:00 Perch/Oxrynchus
-2415,4280 01:00-05:00 Perch
-2420,4300 01:00-05:00 Perch
-2424,4320 01:00-05:00 Perch/Abdju
-2430,4340 01:00-05:00 Catfish/Perch/(Abdju?)
-2432,4360 01:00-05:00 Catfish/Abdju
-2453,4380 01:00-05:00 Catfish
-2449,4400 01:00-05:00 Catfish/Tilapia
-2452,4420 01:00-05:00 Catfish/Tilapia
-2454,4440 01:00-05:00 Tilapia/Chromis
-2460,4460 01:00-05:00 Tilapia/Chromis
-2461,4472 01:00-05:00 Chromis/Phagrus
-2834, 4756 2 am Abdju/Catfish
-3007,5799 9pm Catfish
1917, 2495 12am - 8am caught 483 Carp
1252, 6848 9:49pm Phargus/Chromis
1261, 6824 11:32pm Chromis/Tilapia
1275, 6755 12:11am Tilapia/Catfish
1282, 6715 12:28am Catfish/Abdju
1282, 6701 12:28am Abdju/Perch
1280, 6674 12:53am Perch
1270, 6622 1:16am Carp
1206, -970 1:08am to 6am Chro/Phar/Tila/Cat
998, 6926 5:19am Oxy/Perch
1246, 4070 11:00 Carp/Oxy
727, 7331 11:30 PM Chromis/Tilapia
1091, -3615 12:20 AM Oxy/Perch
1090, -3615 12:40 AM Carp
803, -701 2:00 AM >> 8:30AM (ratio 5:3:1) Perch/Carp/Oxy
3475, -661 Abdju/Catfish
2552, -1489 Abdju/Carp/Cat/Perch
3088, -1097 Chro/Cat/Phar/Tila
3986, -324 All fish
2268, -1239 8:00 PM Catfish/Perch/Abdju
2093, -1974 Carp/Cat/Perch
1455, -1288 Catfish/Perch/?
1595, -2391 Carp/Oxy/?
1421, -1145 3:00 AM Chromis
2523, 5387 3:45 AM Carp/Perch
2421, 5637 8:48 PM - 9:47 PM Talipia/Chromis
2413, 5628 8:48 PM - 9:47 PM Catfish/Talipia
2409, 5622 8:48 PM - 9:47 PM Catfish/Talipia
2473, 5611 8:48 PM - 9:47 PM Chromis
2358, 5619 12:35 AM Perch/Abdju
1631, -693 Carp
1331, -336 Perch
1516, -1255 Tilapia/Chromis/Phagrus
107, 6245 8-10PM & 3-6AM Tilapia/Chromis/Phagrus/Catfish
1084, 7642 7 am Carp
877, 7042 3 am Carp, Perch & Oxyrynchus
2377, 2142 3 am Abdju/Catfish
946, -3377 4AM - 6AM (5:30am peak I think) Abdju/Catfish/Perch
867, 7100 10:13pm Abdju/Perch
1305, -262 1AM - 6AM Abdju/Catfish/Perch
818, -4137 8:30PM - 9:30PM 1AM - 6AM Abdju/Catfish/Perch
2346, -7427 8:49 AM - 9:30 AM (not exact) Perch/Abdju
1475, -4841 6:30 PM Perch/Carp/Oxrynchus
328 , -3570 3:05 AM Tilapia/Catfish
76, -3417 1:50 AM Perch
4460,3616 1 AM Tilapia/Chromis
4458,3631 2 AM Chromis/Phagrus
4426,3499 3 AM Perch/Carp/Oxyrynchus
640,-474 3 AM Catfish
666,-490 3 AM Abbju/Catfish
666,-510 4 AM Abbju/Perch
670,-530 4 AM Perch
670,-550 4 AM Perch
672,-570 5 AM Perch
670,-590 5 AM Carp/Perch/Oxy
1084,-998 Carp/Perch/Oxy
1499, 3123 01:30 Phagrus
-2516,-9 04:00-05:00 Carp/Oxyrynchus
-2532,7 05:00 Carp/Oxyrynchus

There is a fish band along the western bank of the Nile in Karnak that stretches from -1346 to -1599, a vertical distance of 253 coordinates. Chromis occur at the north end, then tilapia, catfish, perch, abdju, oxi, and carp with many of these species occasionally overlapping. Carp occur across at least 59 coords, perch across at least 75.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Map of Egypt

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Game Time
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Type
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(I went back to those spots the next day at the same time, and got the same types of fish, so it seems not to change between days)

It appears that fish appear when it gets dark, and stop appearing an hour or so after the sun comes up. Some water never has fish. (note, puddles in the middle of nowhere can have fish. However, you can't adjust your position to follow the bands. And most puddles are't part of a fishing band.)

Fishing Science

What mathematics are behind the fishing?

We seem to have two states that occillate back and forth across time for a set location.

My experiment started at 12:00 am game time and ran for an hour, collecting data for the number of A and B, in one location, using a macro that clicks the fish button ever 15.5 seconds. I built up a pretty nice list that I am debating on how analyze. This was a random place I chose so I think I am going to throw away these results and perform this experiment on a place I have a navpoint that I can zip to and run my hour of tests.

Just looking at this hour of data though, it seems pretty obvious that one location changes between A and B frequently and since popular thought tells us that fishing gets best around 5-7 am (or so) these numbers most likely change over a period of time. Again, need to run this experiment over multiple hour intervals from the same position. A big guess of what we might get out of this is the hours for maximising your State B and once we have this worked out we can see if it varies from location to location.

-- Chisisi

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(See also: Tale 1 Fishing)

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