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ash production methods and cost charts

this is a mix of my old cost of items and my knowladge of bonfire methods. I wanted to know which is the best method to make ash so i calculated how much time it takes to make ash using different methods.

value of each in seconds	1.2	6	6		10
description	wood	carrots	cabbage	ash	attended	handlable	seconds of work per ash
static carrot heat + cabbage overlap	277	152	117	44	19	4	45.32
static carrot (add carrots at 172 wood)	277	152		28	14	4	50.69
fire forget carrot	277	264		28	0	10	68.44
fire forget cabbage	462		520	37	0	10	99.31
static cabbage heat + carrot overlap	462	80	267	52	0	10	50.7
stoked carrot heat +cabbage overlap	24	152	117	44	24	2	45.52
stoked cabbage heat + carrot overlap	30	80	267	52	30	2	49.38
stoked carrot	24	152		28	24	2	46.46
stoked cabage	30		267	37	30	2	56.43
ocsillated 20 tick cabbage/carrot	231	320	520	132	43	10	43.87

the data mainly support static/stoked carrot heat + cabbage overlap. the static is probobly best and easiest. even though ocsillated seems very atractive ( i had doubt about that ones calc but it seems right) it requires huge amounts of cabbage and carrots to run : 2310 wood 3200 carrots and 5200 carrots but it's still an option . using 4 fires it cost 44.35 and using 6 fires it cost 44.08 .

this chart compares the cost of wood of stoked vs a static fire. it calculates how much more effeciant a static fire over a stoked fires while also considering some multiplex consideration the first 5 entries are low multiplex the last 5 are high multiplex.

 m = number of static fires you can run simultaniously 
 n= number of stoked fires you can run simultanusly
 k= the time it take to get 1 wood
 60/k= wood harvest  per minute 
 h= peak heat of fire
 l= last heat you need to add stuff
 bias= amount added to the final calculation 
 w= amount of wood needed for a static fire. 
 formulas: 
 (10*l/m+w*k) - (10*h/n+h*k) + bias 
 w=h*(h-1)/2 + 1

as number get more negative it's more in favor of a stoked fire .

bias	0	60/k				110	100	90	80	70	60	50	40
name	m	n	h	l	k	0.545	0.6	0.667	0.75	0.857	1	1.2	1.5
carrot	4	1	24	14	277	-67	-53.2	-36.33	-15.25	11.86	48	98.6	174.5
cabbage	4	1	30	20	436	-28.55	-6.4	20.67	54.5	98	156	237.2	359
cab/car	4	1	24	20	277	-52	-38.2	-21.33	-0.25	26.86	63	113.6	189.5
lime	4	1	9	7	37	-57.23	-55.7	-53.83	-51.5	-48.5	-44.5	-38.9	-30.5
charcoal	4	1	8	4	29	-58.55	-57.4	-56	-54.25	-52	-49	-44.8	-38.5
carrot	6	3	24	14	277	81.33	95.13	112	133.08	160.19	196.33	246.93	322.83
cabbage	6	3	30	20	436	154.79	176.93	204	237.83	281.33	339.33	420.53	542.33
cab/car	6	3	24	20	277	91.33	105.13	122	143.08	170.19	206.33	256.93	332.83
lime	6	3	9	7	37	-3.06	-1.53	0.33	2.67	5.67	9.67	15.27	23.67
charcoal	6	3	8	4	29	-8.55	-7.4	-6	-4.25	-2	1	5.2	11.5

after going through the table you'll notice that high heat fire such as carrot and cabbage are much more expensive than stoked fires and for charcoal and lime you'd be a fool to use stoked fires unless you are ocsilating them or have a real lousy wood run. the main factor when wood is relativly cheap ( a guild mate told me he can gather 90 per minute) is how many stoked fires you can run at once compared to the number of static fires. i've tried running 3 stoked fires at once it was not easy but it seemed to work ok ( aspecially if you add 1 safty wood about 20 seconds after you are done or add vegies late with mandatory safty method). static fires are fairly easy to do because much like kettles you don't have to pin them .

anyways i need better m and n parameters though i think 6 and 3 is fairly realistic.

low waste bonfires (less than 0.15 wasted)

even though this table is very long i trimed it to include only fire that make more 35 or more ash

cabbage	carrot	garlic	papyrus	ash
26	152	8	1	35.06
39	136	12	1	35.11
39	136	12	3	36.00
39	144	4	3	35.06
39	144	12	2	37.06
39	152	4	2	36.11
39	152	12	1	38.11
39	152	12	3	39.00
52	128	8	3	35.11
52	128	12	0	35.00
52	144	4	1	36.00
52	144	8	3	38.11
52	144	12	0	38.00
52	152	4	0	37.06
65	128	8	1	36.06
65	136	0	1	35.11
65	136	0	3	36.00
65	136	8	0	37.11
65	144	0	2	37.06
65	144	8	1	39.06
65	152	0	1	38.11
65	152	0	3	39.00
65	152	8	0	40.11
78	104	12	2	35.06
78	112	12	1	36.11
78	112	12	3	37.00
78	120	4	3	36.06
78	120	12	2	38.06
78	128	0	0	35.00
78	128	4	2	37.11
78	128	12	1	39.11
78	128	12	3	40.00
78	136	4	3	39.06
78	136	12	2	41.06
78	144	0	0	38.00
78	144	4	2	40.11
78	144	12	1	42.11
78	144	12	3	43.00
78	152	4	3	42.06
78	152	12	2	44.06
91	104	8	3	36.11
91	104	12	0	36.00
91	112	4	0	35.06
91	120	4	1	37.00
91	120	8	3	39.11
91	120	12	0	39.00
91	128	4	0	38.06
91	136	4	1	40.00
91	136	8	3	42.11
91	136	12	0	42.00
91	144	4	0	41.06
91	152	4	1	43.00
91	152	8	3	45.11
91	152	12	0	45.00
104	96	8	0	35.11
104	104	0	2	35.06
104	104	8	1	37.06
104	112	0	1	36.11
104	112	0	3	37.00
104	112	8	0	38.11
104	120	0	2	38.06
104	120	8	1	40.06
104	128	0	1	39.11
104	128	0	3	40.00
104	128	8	0	41.11
104	136	0	2	41.06
104	136	8	1	43.06
104	144	0	1	42.11
104	144	0	3	43.00
104	144	8	0	44.11
104	152	0	2	44.06
104	152	8	1	46.06
117	72	12	3	35.00
117	80	12	2	36.06
117	88	4	2	35.11
117	88	12	1	37.11
117	88	12	3	38.00
117	96	4	3	37.06
117	96	12	2	39.06
117	104	0	0	36.00
117	104	4	2	38.11
117	104	12	1	40.11
117	104	12	3	41.00
117	112	4	3	40.06
117	112	12	2	42.06
117	120	0	0	39.00
117	120	4	2	41.11
117	120	12	1	43.11
117	120	12	3	44.00
117	128	4	3	43.06
117	128	12	2	45.06
117	136	0	0	42.00
117	136	4	2	44.11
117	136	12	1	46.11
117	136	12	3	47.00
117	144	4	3	46.06
117	144	12	2	48.06
117	152	0	0	45.00
117	152	4	2	47.11
117	152	12	1	49.11
117	152	12	3	50.00
130	80	8	3	37.11
143	64	8	1	35.06
143	72	0	3	35.00
143	72	8	0	36.11
143	72	8	2	37.00
143	80	0	2	36.06
143	80	8	1	38.06
156	48	12	1	35.11
156	48	12	3	36.00
156	56	4	3	35.06
156	56	12	2	37.06
156	64	4	2	36.11
156	64	12	1	38.11
156	64	12	3	39.00
156	72	4	3	38.06
156	72	12	2	40.06
156	80	0	0	37.00
156	80	4	2	39.11
156	80	12	1	41.11
156	80	12	3	42.00
169	40	8	3	35.11
169	40	12	0	35.00
169	56	8	3	38.11
169	64	4	0	37.06
169	72	8	3	41.11
169	80	4	0	40.06
182	32	8	2	35.00
182	40	8	1	36.06
182	48	0	1	35.11
182	48	0	3	36.00
182	48	8	0	37.11
182	48	8	2	38.00
182	56	0	2	37.06
182	56	8	1	39.06
182	64	0	1	38.11
182	64	0	3	39.00
182	64	8	0	40.11
182	64	8	2	41.00
182	72	0	2	40.06
182	72	8	1	42.06
182	80	0	1	41.11
182	80	0	3	42.00
182	80	8	0	43.11
182	80	8	2	44.00
195	16	12	2	35.06
195	24	12	1	36.11
195	24	12	3	37.00
195	32	4	3	36.06
195	32	12	2	38.06
195	40	0	0	35.00
195	40	4	2	37.11
195	40	12	1	39.11
195	40	12	3	40.00
195	48	4	3	39.06
195	48	12	2	41.06
195	56	0	0	38.00
195	56	4	2	40.11
195	56	12	1	42.11
195	56	12	3	43.00
195	64	4	3	42.06
195	64	12	2	44.06
195	72	0	0	41.00
195	72	4	2	43.11
195	72	12	1	45.11
195	72	12	3	46.00
195	80	4	3	45.06
195	80	12	2	47.06
208	16	8	3	36.11
208	24	4	0	35.06
208	32	8	3	39.11
208	40	4	0	38.06
208	48	8	3	42.11
208	56	4	0	41.06
208	64	8	3	45.11
208	72	4	0	44.06
208	80	8	3	48.11
221	8	8	0	35.11
221	8	8	2	36.00
221	16	0	2	35.06
221	16	8	1	37.06
221	24	0	1	36.11
221	24	0	3	37.00
221	24	8	0	38.11
221	24	8	2	39.00
221	32	0	2	38.06
221	32	8	1	40.06
221	40	0	1	39.11
221	40	0	3	40.00
221	40	8	0	41.11
221	40	8	2	42.00
221	48	0	2	41.06
221	48	8	1	43.06
221	56	0	1	42.11
221	56	0	3	43.00
221	56	8	0	44.11
221	56	8	2	45.00
221	64	0	2	44.06
221	64	8	1	46.06
221	72	0	1	45.11
221	72	0	3	46.00
221	72	8	0	47.11
221	72	8	2	48.00
221	80	0	2	47.06
221	80	8	1	49.06
234	0	4	2	35.11
234	0	12	1	37.11
234	0	12	3	38.00
234	8	4	3	37.06
234	8	12	2	39.06
234	16	0	0	36.00
234	16	4	2	38.11
234	16	12	1	40.11
234	16	12	3	41.00
234	24	4	3	40.06
234	24	12	2	42.06
234	32	0	0	39.00
234	32	4	2	41.11
234	32	12	1	43.11
234	32	12	3	44.00
234	40	4	3	43.06
234	40	12	2	45.06
234	48	0	0	42.00
234	48	4	2	44.11
234	48	12	1	46.11
234	48	12	3	47.00
234	56	4	3	46.06
234	56	12	2	48.06
234	64	0	0	45.00
234	64	4	2	47.11
234	64	12	1	49.11
234	64	12	3	50.00
234	72	4	3	49.06
234	72	12	2	51.06
234	80	0	0	48.00
234	80	4	2	50.11
234	80	12	1	52.11
234	80	12	3	53.00
247	0	4	0	36.06
247	8	4	1	38.00
247	8	8	3	40.11
247	8	12	0	40.00
247	16	4	0	39.06
247	24	4	1	41.00
247	24	8	3	43.11
247	24	12	0	43.00
247	32	4	0	42.06
247	40	4	1	44.00
247	40	8	3	46.11
247	40	12	0	46.00
247	48	4	0	45.06
247	56	4	1	47.00
247	56	8	3	49.11
247	56	12	0	49.00
247	64	4	0	48.06
247	72	4	1	50.00
247	72	8	3	52.11
247	72	12	0	52.00
247	80	4	0	51.06
260	0	0	1	37.11
260	0	0	3	38.00
260	0	8	0	39.11
260	8	0	2	39.06
260	8	8	1	41.06
260	16	0	1	40.11
260	16	0	3	41.00
260	16	8	0	42.11
260	24	0	2	42.06
260	24	8	1	44.06
260	32	0	1	43.11
260	32	0	3	44.00
260	32	8	0	45.11
260	40	0	2	45.06
260	40	8	1	47.06
260	48	0	1	46.11
260	48	0	3	47.00
260	48	8	0	48.11
260	56	0	2	48.06
260	56	8	1	50.06
260	64	0	1	49.11
260	64	0	3	50.00
260	64	8	0	51.11
260	72	0	2	51.06
260	72	8	1	53.06
260	80	0	1	52.11
260	80	0	3	53.00
260	80	8	0	54.11
273	0	4	3	41.06
273	0	12	2	43.06
273	8	0	0	40.00
273	8	4	2	42.11
273	8	12	1	44.11
273	8	12	3	45.00
273	16	4	3	44.06
273	16	12	2	46.06
273	24	0	0	43.00
273	24	4	2	45.11
273	24	12	1	47.11
273	24	12	3	48.00
273	32	4	3	47.06
273	32	12	2	49.06
273	40	0	0	46.00
273	40	4	2	48.11
273	40	12	1	50.11
273	40	12	3	51.00
273	48	4	3	50.06
273	48	12	2	52.06
273	56	0	0	49.00
273	56	4	2	51.11
273	56	12	1	53.11
273	56	12	3	54.00
273	64	4	3	53.06
273	64	12	2	55.06
273	72	0	0	52.00
273	72	4	2	54.11
273	72	12	1	56.11
273	72	12	3	57.00
273	80	4	3	56.06
273	80	12	2	58.06