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You may download our most recent Excel spreadsheet from http://www.marvl.com/downloads/Raeli_Science_Study.xls. We can reliably predict the RGB colors expressed for a given HSL vector, but we have not been able to determine the mapping relationship between Location and Colors.

The Raeli_Science Guild has been torn down. Please see Raeli Ovens if you are interested in our current Raeli related activities.

We obtained the exact color information that we wanted, for approximately two dozen ovens.

We rebuilt ovens in identical locations, offset by 4 coordinates NSEW, at various times and with various avatars, and the HSL vector remained the same. Likewise, we could not detect any correlation with elevation.

We were not able to find a mapping transform between location and the HSL vector. The map appears to be a complex sinusoid, akin to the carrot waves, but we can't generate enough periodic data for a Fast Fourier analysis.

Raeli Oven Profiles

We already have a ton of Raeli Oven information that is based on color sequences and RGB measurements, such as the Color Map, but Teppy did a nice job of concealing the Location:HSL:RGB transform for the Raeli Ovens. Right now we have more bad fits than good theories, but we're still working on it, hence the current effort.

The table is sorted first by Y and then by X.
Location X Y Z Status Hue Sat Comments
-419 7752 -419 7752 Posted 290.12 0.3441 Orchid
657 7052 657 7052 Posted 333.64 0.4332 Orchid
1614 6555 1614 6555 Posted 346.43 0.4656 Orchid
1757 6448 1757 6448 Posted 343.57 0.4737 SumAlf Coop
1556 6091 1556 6091 Posted 303.00 0.5668 Yendor
-3 5497 -3 5497 Posted 229.32 0.5911 Yendor
1731 4183 1732 4183 Posted 213.73 0.8138 Orchid
-1360 3300 -1360 3300 Posted 240.00 0.0283 Yendor
1531 2894 1531 2894 Posted 184.41 0.7166 Orchid
1457 2302 1457 2302 Posted 159.26 0.7581 Sunset Enterprises
1238 2249 1238 2249 Posted 155.27 0.7611 Sunset Enterprises (NE)
1238 2249 1238 2249 Posted 155.27 0.7611 Sunset Enterprises (repeated run)
1235 2246 1235 2246 Posted 155.27 0.7611 Sunset Enterprises (Center)
1232 2244 1232 2244 Posted 155.27 0.7611 Sunset Enterprises (SW)
1326 1776 1326 1776 Posted 152.73 0.9352 Yendor (public)
1575 1722 1575 1722 Posted 155.29 0.9310 Yendor (public)
1097 1545 1097 1545 101.00 Posted 132.75 0.9313 Orchid
2526 898 2526 898 Posted 143.85 0.9512 Yendor
5008 656 5008 656 Posted 108.40 0.1048 SumAlf Coop
301 -4248 301 -4248 Posted 71.36 0.3414 SumAlf Coop
-1655 -1220 -1655 -1220 Posted 144.00 030505 Solipsistos
180 -4420 180 -4420 Posted 69.33 0.3659 SumAlf Coop
137 -4910 137 -4910 Posted 55.47 0.4309 Orchid
1476 -6739 1476 -6739 Posted 329.62 0.4828 Yendor

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Mission

The Raeli Science guild exists for the sole purpose of sharing Raeli Ovens while they are being evaluated.

All members will be elders who will first transfer Raeli Ovens to the guild, and then recover them.

Our objective is to correlate the location of any Raeli Oven and the associated HSL vector, and thereby predict where to look for an available clay patch if you need a particular color sequence. Once we understand the Location:HSL:RGB transform, we'll modify the values currently shown as replicate X and Y.

Methods

  1. Join the Raeli_Science guild, just north of the Seven Lakes Chariot Stop at 1443 1830. You must own several Raeli Ovens, you must be a guild Elder if the ovens are guild owned, and you must be willing to transfer your ownership to Raeli_Science for a few days so that we can chart your ovens.
  2. Transfer the Ownership of your Oven to Raeli_Science and contact Seshat or MarvL. The status will be listed as Shared. You'll be an elder in Raeli_Science, so you'll be able to use your ovens and you'll be able to recover your ovens at any time.
  3. MarvL or Seshat will chart your oven, taking a snapshot of the oven color and /clockloc every game minute. We're using Hypersnap to automatically take a snapshot every 20 seconds, 400 snapshots per Raeli Oven. The full set of snapshots are available if you need them for analysis. The status will be listed as Charted. The owner should recover the oven at this point.
  4. We'll pick off the first snapshot after each color change, with it's timestamp, and post the snapshots at Raeli Ovens and the subsequent pages. The status will be listed as Posted.
  5. We'll also be picking off the RGB colors of a color change snapshot that's near the midpoint, on raw snapshots we're looking at the thumbnails and looking for RGB 260 <= Min+Max <= 261 and then scanning a row near the bottom of the snapshot looking for jitter, and using the jitter corrected values in our Excel Model to determine the associated HSL (Hue, Saturation, Luminance) vector.
As the displayed RGB colors are an approximation of the actual HSL colors, and as there's a bit of artifacting and some roundoff error in the display, the sampled RGB values and consequently the HSL values are only +/- 0.5%. The model for the indicated HSL value occasionally misses an observed tile color; we know that.

We'll provide a link to the HSL model as soon as we get it tighted up. The calculated Hue and Saturation values will be posted both on this page and on the snapshot page. Once we're happy with the Location:HSL:RGB transforms, we'll go back and determine a more reliable means of sampling the RGB values, if need be. Hopefully an accurate Location:HSL:RGB transform will allow us to entirely ignore the RGB values.

Theory

Our working theory is as follows:

We're currently examining the elevation of previously tested ovens, and we most certainly need to collect rigorous data for more ovens.


NameCreatorDateSizeDescription
HueAsCos.pngMarvLJanuary 7, 2007 11:43 pm30497A reasonable approximation of the Location:Hue transform
x1235y2246-0200.pngMarvLDecember 11, 2006 2:05 am20469Please Delete
x1457y2302b-0200.pngMarvLDecember 11, 2006 2:07 am26368Please Delete
x1757y6448-0200.pngMarvLDecember 11, 2006 5:02 am17959Please Delete
x1757y6448profile.zipMarvLDecember 12, 2006 3:43 pm393707Please Delete
yhue.pngNonymFebruary 22, 2007 4:14 am13935
ysat.pngNonymFebruary 22, 2007 4:09 am12624

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