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Sunset

There are three Sunset Guilds, all located in northern Seven Lakes on the western side of the Nile around 1450, 2260 just south of the University of Thought.

• Sunset Papyrus focuses on entry level technology and mentoring
• Sunset Enterprises focuses on advanced technology, including Art and Thought buildings
• Sunset Projects focuses on guild sponsored projects and serves as our newspaper

• We also have a coordination page for our Pyramid.

The Sunset Area Venery Tour, which starts near the base of the Welcome Tower and takes about 30 minutes, provides an excellent overview of the Sunset compounds and some of the equipment that doesn't exist on the Welcome Islands.

Caldera Park

Caldera Park contains our Bijou School and our Art and Thought Museums. The park is located in the caldera at 1225, 2250, southwest of the UThought, and includes the guildhall for Sunset Enterprises. You're encouraged stop by the caldera every few weeks to see what's new. Also, when you are looking for a place to exhibit your own pieces, we'd love to accommodate you. We're a little bit cranky about quality control but, other than that, we'll gladly provide space in our museums for your exhibits. There's also plenty of room on the rim of the caldera for outdoor Art and Thought pieces. The mountainous area to the west of the Sunset Campus is beautiful, especially so at Sunrise and Sunset. The highest mountain in Egypt, at 967 2432, is a perfect location for drying your papyrus.

Sunset Hills is our residential area between Caldera Park and the production compounds that are located on the river. The residential area has a couple of ponds, so Sand, Mud, and Water are readily available, and there's a conveyor system that will allow you to transfer up to 15K of Wood, Bricks, Straw, and other bulk commodities between the various areas about as fast as you can walk.

Campus Layout

• The compounds to the west of the road, Flax, Pottery, and Carpentry, are controlled by the Sunset Papyrus guild.
• The compounds between the road and the river, Metals, Cooking, Paper, and Laboratories, are controlled by the Sunset Enterprises guild. Sunset Enterprises also controls compounds for Mining and Glass, located near the related resources.
• The compounds in the Caldera Park, Bijou and Museum, are controlled by the Sunset Enterprises guild.
• The SLPBA guild (Seven Lakes Public Builders Association) has a Wine Tasting Compound in Caldera Park.
• The compounds in Sunset Hills are owned by individual guildmembers.

We have a conveyor, a chain of huge chests, that runs from the river to Sunset Hills, which will eventually be extended to the caldera. You can move bulk materials (Mud, Sand, Water, Grass, Bricks, Boards, etc.) throughout the area about as fast as you can walk. This has the effect of opening up the entire area between the Guild Campus and the Caldera for private compounds and speciality buildings. We usually have some pretty significant carry food available if you need more flexibility. Our Paper Factory is located on the river, at the southeast corner of our campus. The equipment in the Paper Factory is public, so you can make the paper yourself, or you can talk to us about simply buying some Paper. We have eight Paper Presses, plenty of Flax Hammocks, some loanable Linen, Greenhouses, Brick Racks, and Brick Machines (to take advantage of all the flax hammocks), a Gem Table, and several Watermines. Paper making is a nice low stress activity that can be readily interrupted, and we encourage folks to hang around in that area with occasional attention to the Greenhouses and Watermines.

Members

Each guild member is expected to maintain a Tent or Chest, for casual trades and contributions, in one of the guild alcoves. Sunset members, in large part, favor a "work circle" style of play whereby assisting someone with their current project creates an informal expectation that they, in-turn, will help you with your next project. If trades are documented in the guild chat channels, the guild elders will typically cover any losses that might occur. Conversely, when someone departs from the game, the contents of their abandoned Trade Tent or Chest goes into the guild coffers. The doorways fronting the road, and the row of Tents and Chests that repeat the vertical pattern when the walls are dropped, makes a strong Architectural statement, which helps create a sense of Community. The array of equipment in behind the row of tents sends a very strong psychological message that there is more to the game than growing Flax and building Distaffs.

Alcove Layout

Within each compound, our Trade Tents and Chests are numbered in a very predictable way so that folks will be able to easily find their trading partners. As the primary purpose of the Trade Tents and Chests is for the display of your wares, the Tents and Chests are all set for Display, Public View, and Public Stash.

• Axx = The compound
• xBx = The alcove (starting with zero)
• xxC = The position
  • xx0 = Tent
  • xx1 = Large Chest
  • xx2 = Large Chest
  • xx3 = Large Chest
  • xx4 = Large Chest
  • xx5 = Huge Chest
  • xx6 = Huge Chest
  • xx7-xx9 = Other nearby chests

Shared Success

We use Sunset Projects as our newspaper, with an emphasis on what's been done recently, and who's currently working on what.

• If Suzie is working on an Obelisk, for example, she might set up a "Project 236 - Obelisk for Suzie" chest and would enter the details on the Sunset Projects page. She'd then go shopping to see what goods other members might have available in their trade tents that she needs for her Obelisk. Suzie would then contact them to see what kinds of deals might be possible, including both labor and material, thereby promoting her Obelisk project. If you wanted to help Suzie with Project 236, the chest for your contributions would be in the fourth alcove of the pottery compound.
• The Sunset Projects page will always show the overall requirements for the guild sponsored projects, and a recent inventory, but you should look in the project chest and/or check with Suzie before you contribute a bunch of Cactus Sap.

Guilds

There are three Sunset Guilds:

• Sunset Papyrus focuses on entry level technology and mentoring
• Sunset Enterprises focuses on advanced technology, including Art and Thought buildings
• Sunset Projects focuses on guild sponsored projects and serves as our newspaper

Sunset Papyrus

Peasants and new citizens, including Trial Accounts, are welcome to join Sunset Papyrus. Each Sunset Papyrus guild member is encouraged to build a Trade Tent/Chest "outside" in one of the compound alcoves as soon as they are ready to begin actively trading, and the guild often contributes a tuition package of some sort to get new members past the bottleneck skills. New member are expected to ask lots of questions, and the answers will often be an invitation to participate in an expedition of some sort, or an offer to swap for whatever goods and services makes sense to somebody, hence the Trade Chests.

• The discussion topics in Sunset Papyrus are restricted to entry level technologies, and techniques that are accessible to members during their first 100 hours in the game.
• Trade Tents and Chests, all in a nice orderly row, are an important thematic element of the Sunset Campus architecture. If you actually live in the area you're encouraged to build a Tent in one of the guild compound alcoves, you can only build a single house, but if you're primarily a soloer or only an occasional visitor then building a Chest is equally acceptable.
• Involvement in the daily life of the guild is the criterion for promotion to Kinsman in Sunset Papyrus. Kinsmen are basically expected to answer as many questions as they ask. Once you've "leveled up" and have started to focus on production techniques, rather than just catching up, if you haven't already asked about being a Kinsman we'll probably ask if you're interested.

Sunset Enterprises

Admission to Sunset Enterprises requires the creation of a Personal Chit which you then place in the membership chest in front of the guildhall.

• Most members of Sunset Enterprises will also be members of Sunset Papyrus. While there's a slight security consideration, the main reason for the separate Guilds is to avoid flooding new players with information that is useless to them. The discussion topics in Sunset Enterprises tend to focus on advanced technologies and current challenges.
• Our emphasis is on the intricacies of How Things Actually Work, on reverse engineering the building behaviors rather than on production for the sake of passing Tests, although good industrial design is an important aspect of how things actually work. Huge just-in-case inventories are not our thing, nor are we big on University donations. We would rather understand exactly what we are doing, which is more about math, engineering, and computer science than about formal game objectives.
• Gathering the resources and sorting out the science behind a major piece of guild equipment, such as an Acoustics Laboratory, is the criterion for promotion to Kinsman in Sunset Enterprises.

Sunset Projects

Membership in Sunset Projects is restricted to the heavy lifters who have basically accumulated more stuff than they'll ever be able to use by themselves.

• The Sunset Projects page on the wiki serves as the Guild Newspaper.
• The guildhall might be located anywhere, as we use it for storing and hauling around Boards and Bricks.
• For the most part, donations go into Tent 240 - Sunset Projects in the Pottery Compound, or directly into the equipment that is under construction. Occasionally, when a guild member is working on a particular project, we'll designate a Tent or Chest for contributions to a particular project, and we'll include the project in the Sunset Projects newsletter.

Elders have seen it all before

• Promotion to Elder for Sunset Papyrus is based on your adeptness at working with new members. You'll be able to approve new member applications.
• Promotion to Elder for Sunset Enterprises requires experience during all portions of a Tale, but not necessarily with a Sunset Guild assuming that you have some good references. Sunset Enterprises is all about positioning the guild to take advantage of future technologies, including huge projects like our Bijou School and the Eighth Lake Aqueduct.
• Everybody in Sunset Projects is an elder, as it's primarily for facilitating guild projects and the associated chest labels are immediately indicative.

Equipment Locations

Our Paper Presses, Flax Hammocks, Greenhouses, and Carpentry Benches are permitted for use by anyone but, for the most part, only guild members have permission to use other guild facilities.

F3 Map Location	Trade IDs	Focus	Type of Equipment
1456 2268	Central	Tour	Welcome Banner and the Sunset Area Venery Tour
1434 2254	100	Flax	Distaff, Comb/Rake/Gin, Loom
1432 2269	200	Pottery	Pottery Wheel/Deck, Kiln/Vault, Mason's Bench, Rock Saw, Glazier's Bench
1390 2310	300	Carpentry	Wood Run, Wood Plane, Carpentry Bench, a set of basic mining equipment including a Charcoal Hearth, Smelting Pot, Forge, Casting Box, and an Anvil with Tools
Outdoors		Activities	Carving, Digging, Fire Pits, Fishing, Flax, Foraging, Papyrus, Vegetables
1454 2290	399	Guildhall	Sunset Papyrus
1460 2250	400	Metals	Charcoal Oven, various Smelters, Reactory, Casting Boxes, Forges, Anvil, Fleet Furnace, Barrel Vise, Acid Bath, Gearbox Assembly Table, Star Lab
1454 2290	500	Cooking	Kettle (yes there's water), Grain Oven, Malting Tray, Fire Pit, Crematory, Clinker Vat, Kitchen, Rabbit Hutch, Chicken Coop, Terrarium, Serpentarium
1470 2250	600	Paper	Flax Hammocks, Paper Presses, Camel Pen, Greenhouse, Brick Racks, Brick Machine, Wine Barrels, Tubs
967 2432	Mountain	Papyrus	Several Public Flax Hammocks on the Mountain Peak
1469 2281	700	Labs	Chemistry, Acoustics, Scent, Barrel Grinder, Paint, Toxin, Mutagenics, Alembic, Glory Hole
1134 2683	White Sand	Glass	Several Glazier's Benches, especially for Fine Glass
1251 2274	800	Museum	Ceremonial Tasting Table, Mosaic, Chime Tower
1234 2249	900	School	Thoth, Bijou School, Pulse, Venery, Flight, Tomb
1242 2231	949	Guildhall	Sunset Enterprises
Outdoors		Tests	Architecture, Body, Harmony, Leadership, Worship
Wanders	999	Guildhall	Sunset Projects, which is used to haul Boards and Bricks wherever they are needed

Our Mines and Quarries are listed at Sunset Enterprises.

Additional Information

Our Tale 2 wiki pages are located at Tale 2 Sunset.

There are three Sunset Guilds:

• Sunset Papyrus focuses on entry level technology and mentoring
• Sunset Enterprises focuses on advanced technology, including Art and Thought buildings
• Sunset Projects focuses on guild sponsored projects and serves as our newspaper