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This page is hopelessly out of date. But, still, please embrace the wiki spirit throughout this page and feel free to add comments, wine tasting notes, etc. Hopefully, we can all collaboratively learn together. Also, I'm in the slow process of editing this. Thanks to Spicy I realize I didn't really get flavor tiers when I started taking these notes. I will work on making these more concise with those tiers in mind.

A lot of my wine names have an inspiration stemming, in general, from this never-ending, it seems, wellspring of creativity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_fSLuWwS2c or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vf26cRtG_w or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHLjYBsl2zA (2 of those 3 need to become wine names, lol)
Most of my wines of late (Jahliff Red is an exception) are a combo of, dominantly, Eigam Iron and Calixes#116. Several also have a touch of Eigam Copper and a teeny, eeny bit of of Wisdom and/or Frivolity. And more recently I've been experimenting with combos of Shawn #25, Teper #2, Phoenixcu #7, Narafeti # 44, etc.

My first bottled attempt (Jahliff Red) at a purely red wine is a combo of primarily Wisdom and Frivolity vines, two very difficult vines to get great stats from.

Most of my wines, however, are whites.

Many thanks to the folks at the Alexandria guild and Abudabu for giving me some red hybrids to play with.

Though I know I have much to learn, I feel fairly confident about finding good white wine grape combos; and I am making progress toward finding a formula for an exceptional red wine that is high in flavors. If you have tips, insights or (blessing of blessings) fruitful hybrid red grape vines you can share, I'm all ears and open arms. I will, of course, reciprocate as I can.

Many thanks as well to Spicy for all the great wine pointers she has shared. (Note: As I (slowly) edit these pages based on Spicy's notes I'm goint to retain as much of original comments as possible so they can hopefully be as much help to some vinter-in-the-making that stumbles across these pages as they were to me. Thanks, Spicy)

Relatively, I'm quite new to this but I'm eager to learn from Egypt's best vinters in hopes that I may, some day, make some wines that will be worthy of sharing with all.
P.S. Point of recording dates rather than just vintages is to help me -- and other relative newcomers to wine -- to maybe get an idea of how teppy vintages correspond to rl dates/times. And, yes, I will get better about updating vintages on this list. :D

Bottling data, White Wines

(please feel free to edit "notes" sections if/as you taste any of these wines; also, unless otherwise stated the below wines are whites)

Jahliff#6: 11/30/07
Stats at bottling: (roughly) Alc 13%, Res sug 48%-ish, Tannin 1.1%, Acid 1%-ish
Notes: Overflowing w/ flavors of vegetables; intense aromas of fruit
Jahliff#8: 11/23/07
Stats at bottling: Alcohol 12.3, Residual sugar 29.7, Tannin 8.5, Acid 0.4
Notes: Stemmy hints of raspberry
Jahliff#9:???
Stats at bottling: ??
Notes: Stemmy & raspberry; bursting w/ carmelization; overflowling w/ vegetables and fruits; light dessert wine; luxury wine
Jahliff#10: 11/18/2007
Stats at bottling: ???
Notes:
Jahliff#11: 11/27/07
Stats at bottling: Alc 12%, Res sug 25%, Tannin 6.8%, Acid 1.2%
Notes: Stemmy,vegetables, freshness, overflowing with carmelization; light dessert wine; overflowing with stemmy flavors of molasses; hints of burnt smells; fluttering of woodiness; thick; velvety
Jahliff #14 : 12/19/07
Stats at bottling: Alc 13.1%, Res Sugar 54.9%, Tannin 1.7%, Acid 0.9%
Notes: Raspberry, Molasses
Jahliff #15 : 12/11/07
Stats at bottling: Alc 12.7%, RS 35%-ish, Tannin 11.9%, Acid 0.6%?
Notes: Stemmy, veggies, luscious and sweet, freshness
Jahliff#17: 12/07/07
Stats at bottling: Alc 12.4%, RS 44.9%, Tannin 1.6%, Acid 1%
Notes: Overflowing with fruits; ample amounts of vegetables; luscious and sweet
Jahliff#18: 12/07/07
Stats at bottling: Alc 12.3%, RS 63.5%, Tannin 13.4%, Acid 1.4%
Notes: Overflowing with fruits and vegetables; Overflowing with raspberry; Luscious and sweet; Just a fluttering of tree fruit
Jahliff#21: 12/13/07
Stats at bottling: Alc 12.1%, RS 50ish%, Tannin 1.9-ish%, Acid < 1%
Notes: Raspberry, Artichoke
Jahliff#25: Vintage 52 (bottled 1/14/07)
Stats at bottling: Alc 13.2%, RS 50ish; Tannin 11%+; Acid 2%
Notes: Rasberry, Stemmy, Freshness
Dear Prudence: 12/26/07 (Vintage 51)
Stats at bottling: Alc 12.3, RS 52.1, tannin 3.i, acid 1.2
Notes: ethanol, microbiological smells; nutiness, pungency; fluttering of hazelnut
Strawberry Fields Forever: prematurely bottled 12/13/07
Stats @ bottling: (no stats)
Notes: veggies, raspberry, grapefruit, carmelization, molasses, chemical
Graduation Party!: 12/24/07
(This mass-produced wine is to celebrate me finishing school. It also ended up being a Christmas gift to many. If anyone in Horus didn't get a bottle, please see me and I'll give you another wine. I thought I had enough to go around but started to run short.)
Stats @ bottling: Alc 12.7%, RS 65.2%, Tannin 3.8%, Acid 1.0%
Notes: Stemmy, vegetables, luscious, sweet
And very lovely it was too, thank you very much, you're making some great wines :D - Spicy
Nile's Nectar: vintage 52 (1/8/08)
Stats @ bottling: ???
Notes: Grapefruit or Lemon; ethanol
Octopus Garden In the Shade 1/20/08
Stats @ bottling: Alc 13.4%, Rs 54%, Tannin 1.0%, Acid 1.8%
Notes: Raspberry, grapefruit
Savannah Breeze: 1/20/08
Stats @ bottling: 13.4%, RS 6.6%, Tannin 1.$%, Acid 0.8%
Lady Madonna: Stats@bottling: Alc 13.6%, RS 56.6%, Tannin 4%, Acid 0.9%
Ticket To Ride:
3/21/08; Vintage 58
Notes:fruits

Stats@bottling: Alc 14%, RS 52.1%, Tannin 1.5%, Acid 0.9%
(Vintage 66) Baby youre a rich man 14.2 a, 100.6 rs, 2.1 t, 1.1 acid Savoy truffle 14.1 a, 45.7 rs, 8.3 tannin, 1 acid Jah 62 14.3 alc, 55.3 rs 2.2 tannin 3.1 acid

Bottling data, Red Wines



Jahliff Red: 12/05/07
Stats at bottling: Alc 12.2%, RS 7%, Tannin 7.3%, Acid 1.8%
Notes: Thin as of 12/06 (first pure red experiment so hoping this wine will age well in the bottle)
No longer thin by 12/13 -- Carmelization, warm hint of sweetness, hint of character; coffee; woodiness; molasses

By 12/13 you had presumably reached 2 vintages after your wine was bottled since flavours show up dependant on the vintage and coffee is a vintage 2 flavour - go by the bottled vint and current vint rather than the date :) Also, vineyards show 3 flavours given enough time and so far here you have 2 - molasses and coffee. Caramelisation is what you taste from molasses on lower quality glassware (tier 1 and 2 flavour) and woodiness is the tier 1 and 2 flavour of coffee. - Spicy
Jahliff #29: light red; 1/20/08
Stats @ bottling: Alc 13.4%, RS 66.8%, Tannin 1.8%, Acid 1.8%
Notes: Needs to age

Red Sunrise Morning: red; Vintage 58; 3/21/08 Stats @ bottling: Alc 12.8%, RS 10.6%, Tannin 35.6%, Acid 3.2% Notes: Raspberry

Bottling data, Rose Wines



Jahliff#23: 12/13/17
Stats @ bottling: Alc 12.4, RS 53.8, Tannin 2.6, Acid 0.8
Notes: Chocolate; Fruit, veggies

Useful links

Viticulture
Hybrid tending
Vine crossing
More hybrid tending
Wine Flavors - I think you might find this one useful for referring to when noting your flavours Jah :) Often times above you have listed the same flavour that you've tasted at each of its flavour tiers (I edited Jahliff Red to give an example) - Spicy

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