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Our Legal System

In ATITD, we have the ability to control our own laws. Anything that can be conceived of that doesn't compromise game mechanics, the laws of physics, or simply 'make the game easier' can theoretically be voted on, and implemented into the game.

This page outlines exactly how this entire system works, describes how to get involved in the process, and attempts to keep an up-to-date record of all of our legal processes.

The laws in effect in Egypt can be read at any Voting Booth, or further down this page. Booths can be found near chariot stops and expedition points. You can also vote on proposed laws at these booths.

Writing Laws - Getting your idea into the game.
I Have An Idea - How Do I Make A Law?

Getting Involved
'The Podium' Guild

Index
A Master List Of All Petitions Linked From This Page

Writing Laws - Getting your idea into the game.

I Have An Idea - How Do I Make A Law?

Pass the Initiation Into Leadership.
Travel to a University of Leadership, and click to create your petition. Type your petition into the dialog box.
NOTE: There is a character limit of 1500
Walk around and talk to people - ask them to sign your petition. They can sign by clicking on you and selecting your 'Legal' menu. You also have the ability to share your petition with up to 21 people, helping to circulate it more quickly and efficiently.
When you have sufficient signatures (this varies, but over 70 is a good start), return to a University of Leadership and hand in your petition.
NOTE:You can continue to carry a petition after you have collected and turned in signatures.
The developers will now classify the petition - it is either a feature request, or a petition for a law.
If it is a feature request, the developers will consider it, and perhaps add it to their 'to-do' list.
If it is a petition for a law (and has sufficient signatures), it will appear at the voting booth in the game when the next ballot is released. Players will begin voting on it.
After the voting, if the law is sufficiently popular and receives enough votes, the petition will become a law.
After a petition becomes a law, the developers reprogram the game to enforce the law.

The Law Library

A good way to start is to go to a voting booth and view all the laws that have already been passed this telling. You can view the law library by clicking on the booth and selecting the "Law Library" option.

The Signature-Gathering Process

Any player can ask another for a copy of a petition. When you get a copy of a petition, you also get a copy of the signatures. So if I have a petition with 5 signatures, and you copy it, you also have a petition with 5 signatures - the same 5 signatures. Any signatures that either of us gain are added to both of our petitions - there's no need to each hand in copies of petitions when the signatures are 'linked'.

Is It A Law, Or A Feature Request?

After turning in the petition, the developers will classify it as a law or a feature request. The way this is decided is simple, but subtle: there are things that real-world governments cannot do. If the petition asks to do something that a real-world government could not do, then it is not a law, it is a feature request . What follows is a short list of a few things that governments cannot do.

Governments Cannot Grant New Abilities

Imagine if the US Congress were to pass a law declaring that people can run faster. This would not suddenly enable Americans to run any faster. Here is a proposal that violates this rule:

Small and light buildings such as chests, forges, kitchens, tents, etc. should be relocatable by the owner. This would allow reorganization without destroying things.

Players do not have this ability, and governments cannot grant abilities. Therefore, this petition is not a law, it's a feature request. To rephrase: if there is some activity you would like to do in the game, and there is currently no way to do it, adding that ability is a feature request, not a law.

Governments Cannot Conjure Knowledge Out Of Thin Air

Imagine if the US Government were to pass a law stating that from now on, all Americans shall have the knowledge of any terrorists in their vicinity. Nothing would happen - governments cannot magically grant knowledge to their subjects. Here is a proposal that violates this rule:

All players will have an option to enter the optimal amount of metal ore and charcoal into any type of forge, in order that they might gain the best possible results.

Since this proposal grants people knowledge, it is a feature request.

Governments Cannot Negate Challenges

The Stranger has challenged Egypt - he has given us tests, and dared us to try to accomplish them. If the government declares his tests "too hard" and substitutes easier ones, then we have not lived up to his challenges at all! If a law tries to simplify one of the tests, then that is simply a concession that we are too weak to do what he challenged us to do. Here is a sample law that violates the rule:

Each citizen will (automatically) updated as to when another player is building an Obelisk in their region. This will allow people to better organize themselves, and reduce the need to compete for time and resources.

This violates the rule because it makes The Test Of The Obelisk easier. The test is intentionally hard - and part of it is competing to build your obelisk against other players. Anything that makes it easier, or automates any part of that competition, is diluting the challenge. So this is a feature request, not a law.

So What Does Count As A Law?

Laws in Egypt are just like laws in the real world - it's a way for you to limit the behavior of other people. For example, if you say that "nobody may cut down trees in the lakeshore region," that's a law. If you say "nobody may use the university unless they first pay their taxes," that's a law.

What is 'Veto' status?

Some petitions may be denied outright. Reasons for this may be direct modification of a way that a test works, compromising the laws of physics, demanding the impossible, or the petition simply being a way to 'make things easier'. The nature of the petition status will often lend clue to this, such as 'PhysicsVeto' or 'TechVeto'.

How Ballots Work

Below is an extract from Pharaoh detailing exactly how ballots work in T3, in terms of which laws pass, which are retained, and which are scrapped.

Pharaoh here...
We've just completed our first Ballot, and I've had a few questions about how law passes work.
Ballots work like this...
Ballots have up to seven slots on them. Petitions are sorted from highest percentage to lowest.
The petitions in slots 6 and 7, if any, are thrown out.
Then, any ballot receiving less than 50% of the vote is thrown out.
The top law is implemented.
And then ballots in slots 2-5 are retained for the next election.

Click here for a trimmed log of Pharaoh discussing exactly how the ballot, petitions, and vetoes work.

Law Library

The current ballot, established laws, and circulating petitions are listed below. See Failed? for petitions that have been completely discarded, vetoed, or have failed on the ballot.

The Tale 1 & Tale 2 law petition Archives are here: Tale1 Laws & Tale2 Laws

You can use the Drafts page to draw up laws and get feedback before creating them.

Passed Laws

Bills that have passed the General Egyptian Ballot are listed here.

Law Name	Translations	Author	Approval %	Implemented
Departed Person Property Reclamation Act		Squiranha	77.833	Yes
Melted Glass Preservation		Aziza	89.730	Yes
Public Mine Facilitation Act		Archilochus	Unsure	Yes
Ptahs Sculptor		Blaileen	61.684	Yes
Neglected Equipment Recovery Option		Astrina	56.208	Yes
Permissions		Moira	75.172	Yes
Thought Statistics Act		Valherji	Unsure	Yes
Tittle Selection		Themadass	78.234	Yes
Vinters Act of T3		Shawn	Unsure	Yes
Free Petrol Act		Melinhotep	68.240	Withdrawn
Woodplane Destruction Act		Fiona	74.848	Yes
Wills		Beth	Unsure	Yes
Hookah Act		Ryhiad	84.848	Yes
Welcoming Island Beautification Act		Asheara	83.891	Yes
Amendment To The DPPRA		Sallah-Hazerah	79.667	Yes
Chest Usage Utility Log Act		Zoycite	77.640	Yes (With ammendments)
Public Protection Act, Take 3		Asheara	90.357	Yes
Instant Run Off Voting		Etruscus	62.097	Yes
General Permissions Law		EldradUthran	70.683	Meta Law
Emergency Legislation Act		Krankar	61.695	Pending/Unknown
Guild Elder Demotion Act		singh	84.649	Yes
Extension Of Demi-Pharaoh Abilities		Peabody	83.193	Yes
Previous User Identification Act		DaveMongoose	77.108	Yes (minor amendments)
Establishment of Code of Conduct Bill		Kaotika	68.246	Pending
Raeli Oven Utilization Act (revised)		Hemptwister	75.203	Implemented
Responsible Egyptian Act		MacPhisto	75.691	Implemented

Active Laws not passed in Tale 3

These laws are active in Tale 3, but have not been passed as such in Tale 3. Bug, or intentional, only Teppy knows!

Law Name Translations Author Ballot Approval % Implemented
Amendment To The DPPRA (Tale 2) ThutmosesIII n/a n/a Yes
Unknown Title - Disallows the building of buildings within 300 feet of schools or roads. n/a n/a Yes

Law Name	Translations	Author	Ballot	Approval %	Implemented
Amendment To The DPPRA (Tale 2)		ThutmosesIII	n/a	n/a	Yes
Unknown Title - Disallows the building of buildings within 300 feet of schools or roads.			n/a	n/a	Yes

Previous Ballots

28 March 2008
75.691% - Responsible Egyptian Act - Passed
64.458% - A Better View - Retained
62.048% - Valuable Moss Protection Act - Retained
56.024% - Save Conflict Events from cheating - Retained
50.000% - Abandoned mines act - Retained
38.596% - Journeywomans, Kinswomans, and Matriarchs - Dropped
23.841% - The Contain The Insane Within The Membrane Law - Dropped

Unknown Date
68.246% - Establishment of Code of Conduct Bill - Passed
59.716% - Raeli Oven Utilization Act - Retained
58.636% - Abandoned mines act - Retained
58.462% - Save Conflict Events from cheating - Retained
50.500% - Sculpture and Thoth Preservation Act - Retained
29.843% - A Definition of Theft - Dropped
29.224% - The Naked Greed Act of 2007 - Dropped

Unknown Date
77.108% - Previous User Identification Act - Passed
61.345% - Establishment of Code of Conduct Bill - Retained
48.347% - Honor Hasani - Dropped
41.850% - Award for Cathy (feature request) - Dropped
39.130% - [Save The Valley of the Kings - revision 1]? - Dropped
34.199% - Save The Valley of the Kings - Dropped

21 September 2007
75.203% - Raeli Oven Utilization Act (revised) - Unknown - possible duplicate of Raeli Oven Utilization Act - Clarification Needed
69.783% - Thoth Puzzle Reclamation 2nd Time - Retained
63.111% - Establishment of Code of Conduct Bill - Retained
55.157% - Award for Cathy (feature request) - Retained
53.778% - Save The Valley of the Kings - Retained
52.511% - Thoth Puzzle Reclamation Act - Retained
36.019% - Sickness Identification - Dropped

9 August 2007
77.700% - [Extention of Demi-Pharaoh Abilities]? - Passed
66.667% - Thoth Puzzle Reclamation Act - Retained
58.148% - Award for Cathy (feature request) - Retained
54.651% - Establishment of Code of Conduct Bill - Retained
52.941% - Save The Valley of the Kings - Retained
49.286% - Amendment Neglected Equipment Recovery Option - Dropped
39.091% - Repeal of Instant Run-off Voting - Dropped

(?) May 2007
84.649% - Guild Elder Demotion Act - Passed
83.193% - [Extention of Demi-Pharaoh Abilities]? - Retained
69.697% - Sickness Identification - Retained
68.778% - Sculpture Clearing with Venery Protection - Retained
65.517% - Thoth Puzzle Reclimation Act - Retained
45.588% - Enhancing Egypt's Calm - Dropped
36.224% - No Double Jepardy Revision II - Dropped

13(?) April 2007
61.695% - Emergency Legislation Act - Passed
66.187% - Sickness Identification - Retained
51.969% - Thoth Puzzle Reclamation Act - Retained
45.041% - The Clearcutting Act - Dropped
39.759% - Exile Richter - Dropped
37.349% - Malice Tokens - Dropped
36.090% - Residency Of Region And Ballot Enhancement - Dropped

6(?) April 2007
70.683% - General Permissions Law - Passed
54.861% - Thoth Puzzle Reclamation Act - Retained
51.812% - The Clearcutting Act - Retained
50.549% - Exile Richter - Retained
48.302% - Egyptian Sculpture Law (ESL) - Dropped
42.857% - Verdant Squill Protection Act - Dropped
27.372% - Frivilous Ban Pretection Act - Dropped

2(?) April 2007
62.097% - Instant Run Off Voting - Passed
62.030% - The Clearcutting Act - Retained
60.000% - Thoth Puzzle Reclamation Act - Retained
56.044% - Egyptian Sculpture Law (ESL) - Retained
52.397% - Verdant Squill Protection Act - Retained
44.138% - Flax Is A WEED - Dropped
31.475% - Chests - Dropped

23(?) March 2007
90.357% - Public Protection Act, Take 3 - Passed
67.300% - Egyptian Sculpture Law (ESL) - Retained
65.873% - Instant Run Off Voting - Retained
62.094% - Thoth Puzzle Reclamation Act - Retained
50.333% - Flax Is A WEED - Retained
45.238% - Cactus - Dropped
42.751% - Non-Citizen Leadership Petition Removal - Dropped

11 March 2007
77.640% - Chest Usage Utility Log Act - Passed
68.868% - Thoth Puzzle Reclamation Act - Retained
65.636% - Instant Run Off Voting - Retained
65.161% - Egyptian Sculpture Law (ESL) - Retained
50.482% - Cactus - Retained
47.923% - [Revised Clinker Disposal Act]? - Dropped
28.746% - art projectt - Dropped

Unknown Date
79.667% - Amendment To The DPPRA - Passed
71.711% - Chest Usage Utility Log Act - Retained
66.779% - Thoth Puzzle Reclamation Act - Retained
62.411% - Instant Run Off Voting - Retained
61.616% - [DPPRA Amendment]? - Retained
60.738% - [Quarry And Excavation Act]? - Dropped

Petitions in Circulation

I have temporarily removed this page, as it was incredibly outdated. I shall tidy it, restructure it and re-implement a more sustainable approach over the next few days. In the meantime, the table as-it-as can be found here.

Getting Involved

This section aims to outline guilds and organisations that aim to actively engage with the legal system, and empower players to do so.

The Podium : Egypt's premier legal debate guild. Find feedback on your petition, help distributing it, and be involved in bringing the legal system back to the people!

Laws